Why don't you see this on food products?

[Formatted]

I saw an Instagram photo of a family holiday that stressed that the package they had bought came with a carbon offset. Looking at flights for a getaway and they are selling it with a Co2 reduction. It's all very on topic.

When I buy my beef, lamb, carrots why does it not have the same?

 

[Tarw Coch]

Carbon offset is the biggest load of bollox out, do something damaging to the environment and we’ll plant some trees to make up, Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity.

 

[wr.]

Clever marketing and a load of bollox

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Everyone jumping on the climate change band wagon.....absolute ballcocks

 

[roscoe erf]

utter tripe just a gimmick into making some feel superior to the rest

 

[Nearly]

Clever marketing and a load of bollox

Everyone jumping on the climate change band wagon.....absolute ballcocks

utter tripe just a gimmick into making some feel superior to the rest

But we should still be doing it. Bollccks sells.

 

[roscoe erf]

But we should still be doing it. rubbish sells.

unfortunately I don't package my cows when I sell them

 

[betweenthelines]

But where do you start measuring the carbon impact?

For example, you buy an electric car, very climate friendly you think. But what about the electricity generated to power it? About half of that is from non renewable sources. Then you have to think about the carbon impact of making the car in the first place-nice big factory, steel, rubber, lithium etc. imported from all over the world. Where does it end? I could make a case for continuing to run your ten year old diesel guzzler as being more carbon friendly than getting an electric car.

With meat, you have to consider where and how it's reared, was it reared on foods containing palm derivatives (or overseas rapeseed meal) But probably one of the biggest Carbon footprint factors is, where and how did the consumer buy it? A 3kg joint of beef that the shopper drives 10 miles to buy from a "local" farmshop has a lot bigger footprint than if it's bought from the butcher two streets away.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I saw an Instagram photo of a family holiday that stressed that the package they had bought came with a carbon offset. Looking at flights for a getaway and they are selling it with a Co2 reduction. It's all very on topic.

When I buy my beef, lamb, carrots why does it not have the same?

Could even be very dangerous territory, think of all the detail, if they are conc. fed ie soya, licks blocks ( 6 picked up at the ag store and driven 10 miles etc iyswim) and all insundry .....

Interesting article in farmers weekly about lowering sheep costs, breeding of meat off grass will need to move up a gear as part , good article for once as far as I can see especially as how the magazine .
gets run down .

One things for f1 sure, ignore it all at your peril guys.

 

[Formatted]

Carbon offset is the biggest load of bollox out, do something damaging to the environment and we’ll plant some trees to make up, Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity.

Your attitude is common in the industry and even if its is 'rubbish' the public, the people who buy your products, are into carbon offsetting and our products should reflect that.

I'm sure the people who built horse and carts said the same thing

 

[Barleymow]

most of the meat we produce contains soya that has a few miles on it

 

[Muck Spreader]

Your attitude is common in the industry and even if its is 'rubbish' the public, the people who buy your products, are into carbon offsetting and our products should reflect that.

I'm sure the people who built horse and carts said the same thing

The corporate vegan lobby haven't been slow in promoting their supposed environmental benefits to the public with some considerable success. Farmers and their associate bodies need to fight back, in most cases this can be done just with getting the truth out. "Your Grass fed Sunday roast is reducing climate change" etc.

 

[Hilly]

Let’s pollute the air but pay someone to make us feel better ,,,, air still polluted regardless , climate change natural phenomenon been used against people for tax’s etc

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Be better labelling the local greengrocer and butcher's shops, "a fudge sight greener than the supermarket, where all the food is wrapped in plastic for your hygiene and convenience, we know the people who grew what we sell inside"

It's the supermarket/feed the world BS that needs offsetting, not the lambs and leeks

The reason you don't and won't see it is because: the truth behind most food with labels in supermarkets: it isn't better. It's the worst food!
And the truth hurts them.

 

[GeorgeK]

What about information comparing numbers compared to the global averages the BBC are so fond of using?

Produce of the UK
xx% less water
xx% less C02
xx% less land
xx% less food miles
*Compared to global averages

 

[Ukjay]

What about information comparing numbers compared to the global averages the BBC are so fond of using?

Produce of the UK
xx% less water
xx% less C02
xx% less land
xx% less food miles
*Compared to global averages

Would be very interesting if you add in the whole range, including your choice of packaging - so the full farm to fork picture..

 

[betweenthelines]

Your attitude is common in the industry and even if its is 'rubbish' the public, the people who buy your products, are into carbon offsetting and our products should reflect that.

I'm sure the people who built horse and carts said the same thing

Perhaps "the industry" has a bit more understanding of the subject than the general public, who's understanding is based on a few facebook posts and a felling that "that Swedish girl is good"
So, rather than cowtow to the uninformed masses, should we not try to re educate them? Pointing out the hypocrasy of driving a car in an inner city area where good cheap public transport is available, or driving 10 miles in a 4x4 to buy imported avocado, while complaining that the farmers next door is ruining the environment by farming the land the same way as it has been for Centuries, would be a good start.

Just because people think something to be true, doesn't make it so.

 

[Bald Rick]

I saw an Instagram photo of a family holiday that stressed that the package they had bought came with a carbon offset. Looking at flights for a getaway and they are selling it with a Co2 reduction. It's all very on topic.

When I buy my beef, lamb, carrots why does it not have the same?

Carbon offset is the biggest load of bollox out, do something damaging to the environment and we’ll plant some trees to make up, Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity.

Clever marketing and a load of bollox

Interesting fact ... 1 acre of newly planted broadleved trees can sequester 120t of carbon over 50 years
However ONE airbus A350 flying from London to New York emits 0.67t of CO2 per passenger so if full is responsible for 234.5t in a single flight or in other words, two acres worth of planted trees to offset.

Carbon offsetting? ‘Kin joke in the words of the poet

 

[betweenthelines]

Another fact(or two):

The methane emitted by livestock breaks down after about ten years, so the carbon effect of livestock emissions, is already reducing due to cuts in livestock numbers (fewer animals producing more) a decade ago.

Trees only lock up carbon as they grow so a mature woodland or rainforest does not reduce carbon in the atmosphere. Replace an area of rainforest with pasture and carbon will be released as the trees are burnt or decay, but that pasture will trap carbon for ever as it is continually cropped and regrows

Also worth noting that while humans need to eat a balanced diet ti survive, failure to fly to Spain for a holiday or to anywhere for a conference on the environment, has not yet proved to be fatal.

 

[farmerm]

Carbon offset is the biggest load of bollox out, do something damaging to the environment and we’ll plant some trees to make up, Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity.

In this instance it isn't carbon offsetting is it? it is some accounting exercise and the EasyJet flying a full passenger load on a modern aircraft rather than a half full British Airways flight on an older aircraft. lets pollute the air but feel better for it because we are polluting it 5% less than if we fly with another airline,, of course the other airplane is still going to fly regardless of which flight you personally take...