Why is our weather so rubbish ?

[bobk]

I reckon the last decent summer was 1996 , what's gone wrong .

 

[franklin]

Rubbish is the standard setting. We shouldnt expect much else.

 

[Ukjay]

If you want my opinion (for what it matters), I believe the earth has moved axis - but that will not work will it!!

 

[bobk]

If you want my opinion (for what it matters), I believe the earth has moved axis - but that will not work will it!!

Something has gone tits up , we've had 2 dry spells of 4 days since july 1st , that's pants

 

[simmy_bull]

Global warming!!

 

[Hindsight]

I reckon the last decent summer was 1996 , what's gone wrong .

Well I will take our benign maritime climate. OK it is a little irritating when it rains here and sun doesn't shine when one wants it too - but I am ever thankful for small mercies - you could be living in Antigua tonight or Houston a week ago, as examples.

 

[Hindsight]

I reckon the last decent summer was 1996 , what's gone wrong .

Well I will take our benign maritime climate. OK it is a little irritating when it rains here and sun doesn't shine when one wants it too - but I am ever thankful for small mercies - you could be living in Antigua tonight or Houston a week ago, as examples.[/

 

[bobk]

Well I will take our benign maritime climate. OK it is a little irritating when it rains here and sun doesn't shine when one wants it too - but I am ever thankful for small mercies - you could be living in Antigua tonight or Houston a week ago, as examples.[/

Nothing benign about our weather , can't compare violent storms with 20 years of shite .

 

[Wombat]

Our weather just seems to spend it time set on rubbish, it sh!te if I didn't get some decent weather travelling with work I think I would be off

 

[jondear]

Our summer has shifted it was lovely in June has everyone forgotten the 30`c heat easy making hay then .I reckon it's rained every week since July the 1st .Great for grass growth.

 

[Hindsight]

Nothing benign about our weather , can't compare violent storms with 20 years of shite .

I blame it on the EU. You wait until after march 2019. Long hot summers, occasional gentle refreshing rains, cold frosty winters with skating on the village pond. Ah, can't wait.

 

[Henarar]

I blame it on the EU. You wait until after march 2019. Long hot summers, occasional gentle refreshing rains, cold frosty winters with skating on the village pond. Ah, can't wait.

you think so ?
bonus

 

[Hindsight]

you think so ?
bonus

My first ever emoji (I think that is the correct term) in a TFF thread - I was so nervous. I shall rush to tell my teenage daughter how I am moving into the modern world. Now back to my Simple Minds tracks. Anyway its pishing it down here at the moment so maybe Bobk has a point.

 

[Goweresque]

Its the Atlantic. Sometimes the surface is warmer than normal and sometimes its cooler. When its cooler, that promotes the formation of high pressure systems, which in turn means the UK will have hotter drier summers, and cooler winters. The high pressure systems also block the westerly winds that usually dominate UK weather, and stop the progression of low pressure systems across the UK. Conversely a warmer Atlantic means low pressure systems are more likely to form west of the UK and the westerly winds will bring them sweeping across the UK.

The warm/cool surface of the Atlantic has a long term cycle of about 20-30 years, it was in a cool phase from the early 60s until the mid 90s, when it switched to a warm phase. This is why the last 20 years, particularly the last 15 have been so wet in the summer, and so damp, stormy (but generally mild) in the winter - low pressure has dominated our weather.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Atlantic_Multidecadal_Oscillation.svg

The cool phase from the early 60s to mid 90s is the reason everyone of a certain age remembers the long hot summers of their youth, because thats exactly what there was - massive high pressure systems sat out in the Atlantic and over the UK for weeks and months at a time.

This cycle is the main driver of UK climate IMO, and one would suspect that the warm phase is due to continue for a good few years yet, and current weather patterns with it.

 

[Hindsight]

Its the Atlantic. Sometimes the surface is warmer than normal and sometimes its cooler. When its cooler, that promotes the formation of high pressure systems, which in turn means the UK will have hotter drier summers, and cooler winters. The high pressure systems also block the westerly winds that usually dominate UK weather, and stop the progression of low pressure systems across the UK. Conversely a warmer Atlantic means low pressure systems are more likely to form west of the UK and the westerly winds will bring them sweeping across the UK.

The warm/cool surface of the Atlantic has a long term cycle of about 20-30 years, it was in a cool phase from the early 60s until the mid 90s, when it switched to a warm phase. This is why the last 20 years, particularly the last 15 have been so wet in the summer, and so damp, stormy (but generally mild) in the winter - low pressure has dominated our weather.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Atlantic_Multidecadal_Oscillation.svg

The cool phase from the early 60s to mid 90s is the reason everyone of a certain age remembers the long hot summers of their youth, because thats exactly what there was - massive high pressure systems sat out in the Atlantic and over the UK for weeks and months at a time.

This cycle is the main driver of UK climate IMO, and one would suspect that the warm phase is due to continue for a good few years yet, and current weather patterns with it.

Far too technical and reasoned explanation. I prefer to blame Jean Claude Juncker and the EU. Its the EU weather directive 1997 introduced surreptitiously in the Maastricht treaty to blame. You wait all will change March 2019.

I have moved on from Simple Minds now to Tears for Fears.

 

[phillipe]

Its the Atlantic. Sometimes the surface is warmer than normal and sometimes its cooler. When its cooler, that promotes the formation of high pressure systems, which in turn means the UK will have hotter drier summers, and cooler winters. The high pressure systems also block the westerly winds that usually dominate UK weather, and stop the progression of low pressure systems across the UK. Conversely a warmer Atlantic means low pressure systems are more likely to form west of the UK and the westerly winds will bring them sweeping across the UK.

The warm/cool surface of the Atlantic has a long term cycle of about 20-30 years, it was in a cool phase from the early 60s until the mid 90s, when it switched to a warm phase. This is why the last 20 years, particularly the last 15 have been so wet in the summer, and so damp, stormy (but generally mild) in the winter - low pressure has dominated our weather.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Atlantic_Multidecadal_Oscillation.svg

The cool phase from the early 60s to mid 90s is the reason everyone of a certain age remembers the long hot summers of their youth, because thats exactly what there was - massive high pressure systems sat out in the Atlantic and over the UK for weeks and months at a time.

This cycle is the main driver of UK climate IMO, and one would suspect that the warm phase is due to continue for a good few years yet, and current weather patterns with it.

and the gulf stream positioning ?

 

[Goweresque]

and the gulf stream positioning ?

Do you mean the jet stream? The high speed winds in the upper atmosphere? Or the gulf stream, the flow of warm water across the Atlantic, from the southern US to the UK?

 

[phillipe]

Do you mean the jet stream? The high speed winds in the upper atmosphere? Or the gulf stream, the flow of warm water across the Atlantic, from the southern US to the UK?

sorry my mistake i meant the jet stream ,(plonker)

 

[michael N123]

Its the Atlantic. Sometimes the surface is warmer than normal and sometimes its cooler. When its cooler, that promotes the formation of high pressure systems, which in turn means the UK will have hotter drier summers, and cooler winters. The high pressure systems also block the westerly winds that usually dominate UK weather, and stop the progression of low pressure systems across the UK. Conversely a warmer Atlantic means low pressure systems are more likely to form west of the UK and the westerly winds will bring them sweeping across the UK.

The warm/cool surface of the Atlantic has a long term cycle of about 20-30 years, it was in a cool phase from the early 60s until the mid 90s, when it switched to a warm phase. This is why the last 20 years, particularly the last 15 have been so wet in the summer, and so damp, stormy (but generally mild) in the winter - low pressure has dominated our weather.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Atlantic_Multidecadal_Oscillation.svg

The cool phase from the early 60s to mid 90s is the reason everyone of a certain age remembers the long hot summers of their youth, because thats exactly what there was - massive high pressure systems sat out in the Atlantic and over the UK for weeks and months at a time.

This cycle is the main driver of UK climate IMO, and one would suspect that the warm phase is due to continue for a good few years yet, and current weather patterns with it.

will the winters change with it? I've never seen a proper winter like my grandparents ect used to have

 

[Goweresque]

sorry my mistake i meant the jet stream ,(plonker)

That gets disrupted by the higher pressure systems and pushed north (or even south) of the UK, hence less westerly winds and less low pressure systems brought in on it.