Why should I stay..............

[Cowabunga]

And probably the most shocking racism ever seen was the Welsh Nationalists burning second homes.....

Really? If you were a South African farmer you would have seen houses burnt while occupants were still inside and if they tried to escape were hacked to death. The Welsh issue in the 1970's was by three or four people alone against empty second homes. However, there is a current and significant issue of immigrants to Wales outbidding locals and anglicising whole communities in the same way that Asians have made ghettoes where they do not assimilate or learn the language in certain English communities.
This is a social and political issue rather than a racist issue though. Whole communities and cultures are being drowned by retired people who have moved to release capital.
If this isn't addressed then it is indeed what breeds resentment, nationalism, racism and radicalism.

 

[Hilly]

Used to like it when Scotland still had one pound notes
A few times used them in England and got change for a fiver

I used todo that all the time you snooze you loose

 

[Hilly]

I agree. Well, apart from that being in the 1970's by three or four people alone. However, there is a current and significant issue of immigrants to Wales outbidding locals and anglicising whole communities in the same way that Asians have made ghettoes where they do not assimilate or learn the language in certain English communities.
This is a social and political issue rather than a racist issue though. Whole communities and cultures are being drowned by retired people who have moved to release capital.
If this isn't addressed then it is indeed what breeds resentment, nationalism, racism and radicalism.

Happening all over but what’s the answer ?

 

[7610 super q]

I agree. Well, apart from that being in the 1970's by three or four people alone. However, there is a current and significant issue of immigrants to Wales outbidding locals and anglicising whole communities in the same way that Asians have made ghettoes where they do not assimilate or learn the language in certain English communities.
This is a social and political issue rather than a racist issue though. Whole communities and cultures are being drowned by retired people who have moved to release capital.
If this isn't addressed then it is indeed what breeds resentment, nationalism, racism and radicalism.

It's certainly an issue. The likes of Little Haven are ghost villages in winter. My main observation is that the whole of Pembrokeshire is turning into one giant free amusement park.

 

[Cowabunga]

Happening all over but what’s the answer ?

Tax holiday homes and immigrants to communities who do not have pre-booked quality jobs to the hilt?
It happens almost identically in some areas of Spain as well, where the English immigrants [they like to call themselves 'ex-pats'] set up Anglicised ghettos. Yet they mostly voted for Brexit to keep England English. Oh the hypocrisy!

 

[Cowabunga]

It's certainly an issue. The likes of Little Haven are ghost villages in winter. My main observation is that the whole of Pembrokeshire is turning into one giant free amusement park.

The issue with just too many tourists has come up of late. Many of them are extremely abusive to local retailers. I think we are getting many of the dregs of society who usually went to Benidorm and other cheaper destination abroad and can't go this year or last. Whole families are descending on busy coastal shops and stripping the place by mass shoplifting according to local shopkeepers.

 

[glasshouse]

And probably the most shocking racism ever seen was the Welsh Nationalists burning second homes.....

They were quite right
Denmark allows only danes to own property
Otherwise they would be swamped by germans.

 

[Cowabunga]

They were quite right
Denmark allows only danes to own property
Otherwise they would be swamped by germans.

I wouldn't say that they were 'quite right' but Denmark certainly manages the issue rather than tries to ignore it while resentment continues to rise rapidly causing all of the worse of human nature to rear its ugly head.

 

[glasshouse]

I wouldn't say that they were 'quite right' but Denmark certainly manages the issue rather than tries to ignore it while resentment continues to rise rapidly causing all of the worse of human nature to rear its ugly head.

Sadly its only actual violence or destruction of property gets results in that department.
Was it called an gof?
Its rather ironic that anders polson is now the biggest landowner in scotland and to make matters worse is advising scotgovt on rewilding, yet i cannot buy one acre in denmark

 

[Hilly]

They were quite right
Denmark allows only danes to own property
Otherwise they would be swamped by germans.
[/QUOTE

ffs you can’t condone that , take it up with the ones that sold them the property’s .

 

[toquark]

You can’t solve this issue by blaming those who sell. Price will usually prevail. I think there should be some controls on who can buy rural property, 4 of my 5 closest neighbours are moneyed English retirees. Of course they are perfectly decent people, but I know of two young local couples priced out by them when they bought.

Like all immigration - and that’s essentially what we’re talking about here - it’s a question of scale and speed. Get the balance right and very few will quibble, get it wrong and you get the darker side of humanity rearing it’s head.

 

[glasshouse]

The frre market is to blame

 

[Hilly]

When you have something to sell for a few million but some dick says you can only sell to poor locals for 100k you will soon change your minds tho eh.

 

[Cowabunga]

When you have something to sell for a few million but some dick says you can only sell to poor locals for 100k you will soon change your minds tho eh.

Yes, undoubtedly. So what is the answer, short of burning immigrant houses down which is the direction that things are likely to go with some militants? You can easily equate what is happening with what happened to persuade a whole lot of people to vote for Brexit. "Take back control" and "Stop freedom of movement" and all that.

 

[PSQ]

Yes! Independence for south Scotland! I’ve been saying it for years. Leave the central belt face painters to their utopia.

If he had any sense Boris should let the Nationalists 'win' the 2014 referendum, by building a 30 foot wall around the 'Yes' areas: Glasgow / Paisley and Dundee, and let them get on with their self funded 'utopia' in peace...

 

[Hilly]

Yes, undoubtedly. So what is the answer, short of burning immigrant houses down which is the direction that things are likely to go with some militants? You can easily equate what is happening with what happened to persuade a whole lot of people to vote for Brexit. "Take back control" and "Stop freedom of movement" and all that.

I see nothing wrong with the way things are , just life “ change “ as for militants , lock them up throw the key away just retarded Fuk wits that are waste of fresh air .

 

[Cowabunga]

I see nothing wrong with the way things are , just life “ change “ as for militants , lock them up throw the key away just retarded Fuk wits that are waste of fresh air .

When you are part of a community and language and culture that is being swamped by immigrants and whose youngsters and even more mature people haven't got a hope in hell of competing for houses in their own community, then you are breeding resentment and anarchy. That can only go on for so long before it boils over.
Is that acceptable to you? Or should something along the Danish lines be done to slow it down to a trickle? The English certainly don't like it when it happens to their communities even when the people only stay temporarily and pay rents and actually work and pay taxes while there.

 

[Secret Agronomist]

Maybe the question should be,
"Why SHOULDN'T I go" focus on the positives.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

There were more than previously thought when we were in the EU. Now that we are not and so many have been made to feel unwelcome and gone home, we are dreadfully short of all kinds of workers, from fruit picker to lorry drivers to chefs and bar tenders. Odd that you hadn't noticed this. Most people have and also noticed many empty supermarket shelves and short retail business opening hours as a consequence.

I think that is because we spend far too much money on Higher Education and not enough on Further Education, so lots of young people who should be going to local tech colleges and learning a trade are instead going to substandard Higher Education institutions and ending up with high debts, high expectations and degrees that don't qualify them for the jobs are are needed.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Really? If you were a South African farmer you would have seen houses burnt while occupants were still inside and if they tried to escape were hacked to death. The Welsh issue in the 1970's was by three or four people alone against empty second homes. However, there is a current and significant issue of immigrants to Wales outbidding locals and anglicising whole communities in the same way that Asians have made ghettoes where they do not assimilate or learn the language in certain English communities.
This is a social and political issue rather than a racist issue though. Whole communities and cultures are being drowned by retired people who have moved to release capital.
If this isn't addressed then it is indeed what breeds resentment, nationalism, racism and radicalism.

lots of people move to Ceredigion to retire, cheap, pretty coastline, I am sure I have read that Ceredigion has a high death rate because of the number of people who move there to retire. This is a problem that all pretty rural areas have, with the differences in housing costs, however this is more of problem in rural Wales, because of the language losing it's critical mass.