Will we be ploughing for re seeding in the future?

[Derrick Hughes]

Th Aitchison I saw looked like a pig had been rooting , better for the seed I suppose but our ground is very Stony
That was done with an Erth . I had a Moore before that

 

[ollie989898]

Is this thread still on going?

Keep reseeding using DD, save the money. Then come back in 4-5 years and tell me how long your leys lasted. Yeah, the 2 goes with round up thing. That's right out of the British Seed Houses consultant handbook. Used to hear it time and time again.

You can't beat rotations and a half decent break crop.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Is this thread still on going?

Keep reseeding using DD, save the money. Then come back in 4-5 years and tell me how long your leys lasted. Yeah, the 2 goes with round up thing. That's right out of the British Seed Houses consultant handbook. Used to hear it time and time again.

You can't beat rotations and a half decent break crop.

That's 3 year ley ,if it's lasts 5 I will be more than happy [emoji16]

 

[Scholsey]

Every man and his dog seems to have short term leys in presumably to bale and sell, I wonder how much baled silage will be worth this winter? I’m going to guess not very much.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Th Aitchison I saw looked like a pig had been rooting , better for the seed I suppose but our ground is very Stony
That was done with an Erth . I had a Moore before that

how can 'like a pig rooting ' can be better for seed .?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

how can 'like a pig rooting ' can be better for seed .?

More soil contact, only by what I've seen , I have not used a tine drill

 

[som farmer]

That's 3 year ley ,if it's lasts 5 I will be more than happy [emoji16]View attachment 966119

however it was drilled, it's certainly a good take, and that's all that really matters, horses for courses.
Duration of leys is going to become more relevant, for our milk contract, % of permanent pasture is a big plus, as is dd or min-til, another stick to beat us with, but quite plausible, if you look at it from a diesel usage point of view, we all have to realise, our opinions don't mean a lot, our customers requirements do, they pay the paltry income we receive.

 

[Bury the Trash]

More soil contact, only by what I've seen , I have not used a tine drill

with my system i get perfect seed contact every time, its called making a seedbed ,its why people do it ,well people with patience anyway and those without that patience are perhaps in the wrong job maybe....

 

[Derrick Hughes]

with my system i get perfect seed contact every time, its called making a seedbed ,its why people do it ,well people with patience anyway and those without that patience are perhaps in the wrong job maybe....

I'm looking for the perfect system that does not involve that , we've been here before , but the advantages far outweigh and disadvantages

 

[Bury the Trash]

however it was drilled, it's certainly a good take, and that's all that really matters, horses for courses.
Duration of leys is going to become more relevant, for our milk contract, % of permanent pasture is a big plus, as is dd or min-til, another stick to beat us with, but quite plausible, if you look at it from a diesel usage point of view, we all have to realise, our opinions don't mean a lot, our customers requirements do, they pay the paltry income we receive.

it looks good now but it has been sprayed twice and no clover now so how can that save fuel ?
clover saves on fossil fuel use...... free N form the atmoss fear, wow.

That was obviously not a good way to establish it nor will it be now, way too much competition I'm afraid, what a pity, the opportunity was lost. still its all a learning experience and he can always have another go in 3 yrs time

 

[Derrick Hughes]

it looks good now but it has been sprayed twice and no clover now so how can that save fuel ?
clover saves on fossil fuel use...... free N form the atmoss fear, wow.

That was obviously not a good way to establish it nor will it be now, way too much competition I'm afraid, what a pity, the opportunity was lost. still its all a learning experience and he can always have another go in 3 yrs time [emoji849]

Competition from what ?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Competition from what ?

well what do you think ?

the established grass thats what ,
your clover establishment boat has sailed .
not quite sure why i have to keep explaining things,its not rocket science.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

well what do you think ?

the established grass thats what ,
your clover establishment boat has sailed .
not quite sure why i have to keep explaining things,its not rocket science.

Clover Overseeds easy after I got rid of the docks

 

[Bury the Trash]

Clover Overseeds easy after I got rid of the docks

Shouldve got rid of them first.

and then a better way round would be establish a lot clover first then add a bit of grass.
Its a common mistake people make in that they see clover in the sward and think it s more than it actually is , over-estimate the amount.

I want my grazing swards full of it with it not just a token amount .
Same goes for chicory but thats even harder to establish in a half cocked way.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Shouldve got rid of them first.

and then a better way round would be establish a lot clover first then add a bit of grass.
Its a common mistake people make in that they see clover in the sward and think it s more than it actually is , over-estimate the amount.

I want my grazing swards full of it with it not just a token amount .
Same goes for chicory but thats even harder to establish in a half cocked way.

How can you get rid of docks if you sow clover first
I'm on spuds today
Does anyone else grow spuds on SDA land

 

[Bury the Trash]

How can you get rid of docks if you sow clover first
I'm on spuds today
Does anyone else grow spuds on SDA land View attachment 966321

power harrows are such good tools.
But Better if your side cheeks were catching all soil so there wasn't them rdges out the side ,and guttler roller instead of sharks fin packer then it would be perfect

bit late for main crop.....More trial plots ?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

power harrows are such good tools.
But Better if your side cheeks were catching all soil so there wasn't them rdges out the side ,and guttler roller instead of sharks fin packer then it would be perfect [emoji23]

bit late for main crop.....More trial plots ?

Yes Adas, they only want the tops

 

[Derrick Hughes]

power harrows are such good tools.
But Better if your side cheeks were catching all soil so there wasn't them rdges out the side ,and guttler roller instead of sharks fin packer then it would be perfect [emoji23]

bit late for main crop.....More trial plots ?

How about this one then

 

[Derrick Hughes]

And the ploughed one

 

[Henarar]

How can you get rid of docks if you sow clover first
I'm on spuds today
Does anyone else grow spuds on SDA land View attachment 966321

Boys soil, SD my foot