If BW thought that then surely they should not only pay for 2020 clip now but also pay some advance on 2021 !! That would make the decision easier.
Wool...what will you do with yours...
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I'm comparing last year's prices which are known. It's you not comparing like for like.
Your comparing a known fixed price quoted for wool and paid immediately from the Irish buyers for an unknown value paid out in 12 months which this year "looks like it's getting better".
My out look for this year's auction sales is that the buyers are full up on lasts years "cheap" wool. This year there will be a bigger influx of wool as the carry over on farms comes into the system so no shortage this year either. Perhaps the WB kept lots of good wool (with demand) for the last sale to boost prices pre the new season
. It's not like the pandemic is over and things are back to normal yet so where will the demand come from when everyone's stocks are full?livestock 1
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Why does Covid only effect Wool Board wool but doesn’t effect DB wools?
Farmer Keith
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A kiwi family friend recommended winter shearing as the best way to improve quality but obviously their climate is a little more forgiving than ours. Setting up to winter shear here would require a big sheep shed and it’s not looking like the wool cheque will be contributing much towards one of those even with a big jump in wool quality.
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I'm comparing last year's prices which are known. It's you not comparing like for like.
Your comparing a known fixed price quoted for wool and paid immediately from the Irish buyers for an unknown value paid out in 12 months which this year "looks like it's getting better".
My out look for this year's auction sales is that the buyers are full up on lasts years "cheap" wool. This year there will be a bigger influx of wool as the carry over on farms comes into the system so no shortage this year either. Perhaps the WB kept lots of good wool (with demand) for the last sale to boost prices pre the new season
How much did DB wools pay last year?
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- N.Lincs
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- North Wales
So for easy maths we'll call it 15p which is for no:2 mule ewe wool. 45p would be 3 times what the wool board are going to paySo, that was 45p/kg in the producers hand there and then. If it went to the WB, this is what they will pay when the 2021 clip is delivered...........
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. Now is it just me or do the wool board not see that they may have a problem.(Before someone starts an argument, I know number 1 wool is dearer at 16p but the maths wouldn't be as easy and I'm not even sure I've got them right anyway). Who gets no:1 wool anyway? you only get that when you go and see your wool graded.
There`s rather a lot of pages to read through here, at the risk of appearing lazy (and in an attempt to stay awake!!) ,I just would like to ask if there`s anything good or bad said about Brannach Olann on here. They buy wool but their website seems a bit like it was written by a politician(
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- Montgomeryshire
So for easy maths we'll call it 15p which is for no:2 mule ewe wool. 45p would be 3 times what the wool board are going to pay
(Before someone starts an argument, I know number 1 wool is dearer at 16p but the maths wouldn't be as easy and I'm not even sure I've got them right anyway). Who gets no:1 wool anyway? you only get that when you go and see your wool graded.
Isn’t that 15p for last year’s wool delivery, which the Irish were paying around that for?
The Irish are reportedly paying 45p now, but we won’t know what British Wool make of this year’s clip until after it’s all sold. On a rising market, are the Irish playing a blinder?
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- Montgomeryshire
DB’s price is well down on pre-COVID levels too, and was much lower last year, which is what BW’s quoted price was for.
I saw a post on Facebook last year, which showed the wool ticket for an Irish sheep farmer. He received just 5p/kg for his wool!
That is what happens when you do away with the board and let a small number of large processors control the market. You guys slam the dw sellers on here, telling us we should all support the auction marts, yet when it comes to wool, you want to pass the Vaseline round and bend over for Woolly Larry?
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- N.Lincs
According to @Bob (who spotted post #51 put up by @Rob Garrett ) the Irish were paying 45p/kg in July 2020, so the comparison is like for like.
As far as I'm aware, that is the first like for like comparison we've had. Now I'm fully aware of what is very likely to happen if too many sell direct to the Irish but the chance of immediate payment at a known price is there and will tempt more and more to do so when people see how BW are treating us.
It's a downward spiral, BW can't give us more 'cos they're not getting the volume of wool, so more producers sell to the Irish, so BW give us even less 'cos they've got less wool, so more goes to the Irish....... and so on until they go bust.
I keep saying it but BW must really up their game before it's too late (it already might be too late). I've spoken to my local area WB bloke but I doubt my comments went any further.
Going to try the regional member tomorrow.
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- Cheshire
ONLY! And this is the important bit. ONLY, if I can have a job on the board. That’s the biggest problem with a lot of these things! I’m not on the board!
livestock 1
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I’m not going to keep having to repeat myself AGAIN am IDB’s price is well down on pre-COVID levels too, and was much lower last year, which is what BW’s quoted price was for.
I saw a post on Facebook last year, which showed the wool ticket for an Irish sheep farmer. He received just 5p/kg for his wool!
That is what happens when you do away with the board and let a small number of large processors control the market. You guys slam the dw sellers on here, telling us we should all support the auction marts, yet when it comes to wool, you want to pass the Vaseline round and bend over for Woolly Larry?
EVERYONE I know has had nothing worthwhile for their wool for years now from wool board
There’s nothing there to be lost
Doesn’t matter what they quote
You don’t end up with anything
It’s not worth the transport here never mind the packing and storage
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- North Wales
This is the reality for some farmers in the UK too though. Not everyone keeps breeds with wool worth a massive 15p/kg.
Even at 15p a small farmer with one 60kg sheet of wool is only likely to receive.
60kg X 15p = £9. So it isn't worth bothering to take to the wool board or the Irish buyers. The return won't cover your time or haulage to take it.
livestock 1
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It amazes me all the chit chat on here about profitability and what is and isn’t a waste of time yet some think that it’s ok to pack wool cart it about usually twice at least store it and get only a few quid at the end of the day, then wait a year for the money
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- North Wales
The other side of the world but they're facing the same problems we are.
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- N.Lincs
So, had a chat to our WB regional chap this morning (turns out he's actually a lady ) about my concerns that the WB are going to lose more and more to the Irish if they don't wake up and become more pro active.
She assures me that the tide is turning and it's a rising market. The WB have a new CEO and they have losts of new customers, projects, etc on the go.
When questioned as to why the WB aren't telling us about this, apparently it's all hush hush and subject to confidentuality agreements and the like.
I did indicate that if they don't start to communicate better and instill a bit of confidence in us then they'll not have to keep it a a secret 'cos they'll have no wool and there'll be no WB.
Come on WB, wake up and smell the coffee. The Irish are going to steal it out from under your noses. They're getting more and more every day (see @Bob 's post above.)
) about my concerns that the WB are going to lose more and more to the Irish if they don't wake up and become more pro active.She assures me that the tide is turning and it's a rising market. The WB have a new CEO and they have losts of new customers, projects, etc on the go.
When questioned as to why the WB aren't telling us about this, apparently it's all hush hush and subject to confidentuality agreements and the like.
I did indicate that if they don't start to communicate better and instill a bit of confidence in us then they'll not have to keep it a a secret 'cos they'll have no wool and there'll be no WB.
Come on WB, wake up and smell the coffee. The Irish are going to steal it out from under your noses. They're getting more and more every day (see @Bob 's post above.)
livestock 1
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No wool sheets and string delivered from wb apparently this time