Nithsdale is there public relations officer. He’s on a pay as you push the bull scheme .
Wool...what will you do with yours...
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Farmer 83563
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I've asked the question and it seems that smaller buyers wanting to bid go through an 'agency buyer' (employed by BWMB to bid on behalf of others). Not sure why they couldnt bid direct but it does avoid smaller buyers having buy from the big merchants and paying markup. BWMB have now moved on to an online auction system there should be scope for smaller buyers to bid direct in future.
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- The North
I’m not sure she did talk me though it but I struggle to remember but she she they were very upbeat about the price continuing to improve? Got to be good news really think I got £150 for last years clip around 600kg worth
one thing she did say was they are/have abolished the fee for collections so as long as you get it to the local centre you get the full amount
Did she mention the 2 tonnes of sh!t that normally accompanies the wool ...I’m not sure she did talk me though it but I struggle to remember but she she they were very upbeat about the price continuing to improve? Got to be good news really think I got £150 for last years clip around 600kg worth
one thing she did say was they are/have abolished the fee for collections so as long as you get it to the local centre you get the full amount
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- North Wales
I should just make the point that the majority of UK grown wool would be poor quality at best on the scale of quality wools. It has a use in carpets and insulation but these are low value items in comparison to clothing where the real value is. This is also compounded by shepherds breeding sheep for tight skins on fat lambs for extra value in live markets but producing a lesser value fleece in the process.
Re insulation, there's alot of processes involved to go from raw fleece to this:
https://www.thermafleece.com/
It's not so much that it is too expensive, more that the synthetic is too cheap. Only way it will take off is for Govt to insist on it in public sector contracts.
Re the wool board doing their job or not, it would be interesting to know if they are being supportive in the development of new uses, example below, hopefully they are.
https://www.thermafleece.com/
It's not so much that it is too expensive, more that the synthetic is too cheap. Only way it will take off is for Govt to insist on it in public sector contracts.
Re the wool board doing their job or not, it would be interesting to know if they are being supportive in the development of new uses, example below, hopefully they are.
- Location
- South Wales UK
If it does ,their'll give you a bit this year ,bit next year ,then the vat element?
Fertiliser is worth more than wool nowadaysDid she mention the 2 tonnes of sh!t that normally accompanies the wool ...
There are lot of processes to take crude oil from the ground to the refinery and then into its components yet returns seem to be good for these companies.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Their is no one more than me that would
Love to see wool used more for all kinds and worth more etc etc but to blame the auction house for its lack of worth is just not right , they are only selling it On your behalf that’s it .
Love to see wool used more for all kinds and worth more etc etc but to blame the auction house for its lack of worth is just not right , they are only selling it On your behalf that’s it .
On a positive note I understand that since Christmas there’s been some restructuring at the top of management and the rotten apples have moved on and that there are some good things in the pipesline to move the wool board forward and making sure farmers have a better piece of the cake . That’s hot off the press as I’ve just been asking some questions and been told this by someone who works on the ground for the wool board.
The clue is in their name. Marketing, not auction house.
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- Hertfordshire
Its British Wool and has been for quite a while now.......
Promoting great British fleece wool | British Wool
Information for Consumers, Producers and the Trade about British Wool. Find out about sheep, wool types and British wool products.
www.britishwool.org.uk
Promoting or marketing. What's the difference?Its British Wool and has been for quite a while now.......
Promoting great British fleece wool | British Wool
Information for Consumers, Producers and the Trade about British Wool. Find out about sheep, wool types and British wool products.
- Location
- Devon
Look at the difference in price/ litre of milk between the buyers who just sell liquid and those who have some manufacturing ability to stabilise price.
Now that British Wool doesn't have a monopoly on buying our wool it could easily finance a facility to make an end product.
Now that British Wool doesn't have a monopoly on buying our wool it could easily finance a facility to make an end product.
For sure, but I think the issue with oil is that they basically get a whole myriad of products free of charge as it is processed from crude, it's very difficult to compete with that.
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- East Sussex
The name now is "British Wool".
It is restructuring and has closed depots, Including Liskeard, Porthmadog and Irvine. All of which are being sold.
It is paying all producers who sent wool in last year (even those whose wool didn't even cover the handling costs) from 5p to 35p per kg or so I am told.
British wool is mostly used in making good quality carpets, most of which are used in hotels, cruise ships, Casino's etc, all of which have been shut down for the last 12 months or longer.
The more wool that BW handles the lower the costs, this is why it is essential that wool growers stick together or you have the EU/Irish situation where there is no one to take the wool at all.
At present the BW auction price is higher than the NZ price like for like.
Anyone can buy at a BW auction as long as they have the credit to do so. It is a public auction. Credit risk is low as the wool has to be paid for before it is released. Auction lots are normally more than 8 tons.
NZ has looked at other uses and is making a "plastic" from Maize and wool fibre that is blended.
Insulation is always at the wrong end of the market, you need high value not low value. Similarly mixing wool with bracken to make compost.
Auction prices for the better quality wools are increasing and the forecast is they will be around 80p average by late summer.
Every kg of wool that goes to the private buyers actually reduces the competition in the auction. There are only 3 main buyers and 3 scouring plants, 2 near or in Bradford and one in the Czech Republic. Otherwise it is China.
It is restructuring and has closed depots, Including Liskeard, Porthmadog and Irvine. All of which are being sold.
It is paying all producers who sent wool in last year (even those whose wool didn't even cover the handling costs) from 5p to 35p per kg or so I am told.
British wool is mostly used in making good quality carpets, most of which are used in hotels, cruise ships, Casino's etc, all of which have been shut down for the last 12 months or longer.
The more wool that BW handles the lower the costs, this is why it is essential that wool growers stick together or you have the EU/Irish situation where there is no one to take the wool at all.
At present the BW auction price is higher than the NZ price like for like.
Anyone can buy at a BW auction as long as they have the credit to do so. It is a public auction. Credit risk is low as the wool has to be paid for before it is released. Auction lots are normally more than 8 tons.
NZ has looked at other uses and is making a "plastic" from Maize and wool fibre that is blended.
Insulation is always at the wrong end of the market, you need high value not low value. Similarly mixing wool with bracken to make compost.
Auction prices for the better quality wools are increasing and the forecast is they will be around 80p average by late summer.
Every kg of wool that goes to the private buyers actually reduces the competition in the auction. There are only 3 main buyers and 3 scouring plants, 2 near or in Bradford and one in the Czech Republic. Otherwise it is China.
Tubbylew
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- Location
- Herefordshire
Imo, the wool board do get a bit of unfair flack, unless it's really high quality, wool is worth the thick end of fw ck all the world over, always has been in my life time and no amount of pissing a whinging will change that, my wool clip wiil be worth about £60 if it reaches the dizzy heights of 19ppk, not gonna pay for many scantily clad rousies, let alone the diesel and time to get it sold, mind my 6 sheets aren't gonna collaps the world wool market.