multi power
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- pembrokeshire
doesnt really matter what you earn, just cut your coat according to your cloth
£8 minimum Wage
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doesnt really matter what you earn, just cut your coat according to your cloth
thats what I've been saying
Baling Hay
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I think this thread highlights the main reason why young people don't want to work in this industry!
When I worked in engineering the guys on the factory floor started on 28k per year with pension, health insurance, holidays etc. plus overtime!
When I worked in engineering the guys on the factory floor started on 28k per year with pension, health insurance, holidays etc. plus overtime!
Sussex Martin
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- Burham Kent
Workers on £28k a year!!!! well I never! all the dead farmers will be turning in their graves! £28k, Thats £538 per week, How can we afford to pay that? £538 a week, no-one can be worth that much, unsustainable, I wish I could earn that!
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Baling Hay
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Workers on £28k a year!!!! well I never! all the dead farmers will be turning in their graves! £28k, Thats £538 per week, How can we afford to pay that? £538 a week, no-one can be worth that much, unsustainable, I wish I could earn that!
That is starting salary too, after a few years and with shift premimum and overtime many earn over 50k and these people have ZERO qualifications.
shall we invite the nurses on here or policeman or dustman or lorry drivers i surprised anybody wants to work with the expectations some on here seem to think they are worth
Baling Hay
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All of which get paid A LOT more than the £8 per hour quoted.
glasshouse
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- lothians
The accountant tells me that i earned minus £ per week last year,2013 harvest.
Athlete's Foot
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- Midlands
Well Clive like it or not they are our competition and I very much doubt that they will be looking to introduce such a system, and to me it is a perfect example of just why a minimum wage is a bad thing. We live in a world of market forces where costs of production are critical to ensure ongoing business. France with their draconian labour laws is a great example of how not to run an economy, how not to be competitive, how not to provide wealth and prosperity. It is, however, a great example of how to deflate the will to work, how to stifle innovation, how to cripple a once prosperous country. Lets follow them like lemming shall we? Lets pay everybody a basic rate of pay irrespective of their contribution. Let put out of work the less able who wish to work, but are unemployable because no one can afford to pay them, simply because they are less productive. Lets tear away their self esteem and make them feel completely worthless, that's a real result, they can draw Social Security.
As for your comment about china being very much 3rd world, so it may be, but as there becomes less over there that is 3rd world, there becomes more over here that is. You cannot protect the British worker from competition, and the minimum wage attempts to do just that. The basic laws of economics will not permit it. It is doomed.
A country who success comes at VAST cost to both the environment and the majority of its population is no example to follow, that is the reason they have been so competitive however I'm not actually sure thats the case so much there days
I might remind you they were driving tanks over their population not that many years ago, they still lock up those that don't agree with government policy, Im not sure I want to be part of a country that treats people or works that way
if you don't pay a minimum wage that makes work more attractive than a life of benefits you will just pay more benefits, if you don't pay benefits you live in a 3rd world country where people starve and die in the streets, for those of us lucky enough to not be at that end of the economy the choice is simple, pay more wages or pay more tax. Which ever way you skin it the cost of living is what it is and that money has to come from somewhere
personally I would rather incentivise people to work, why should life be hard ? we don't live in the middlel ages, people shouldn't have to suffer if a viable alternative exists
do you live off 16k a year ? could you ? would you ? not everyone has a choice due to circumstance etc, life isn't as simple as work hard and you will be rich these days, just consider how life would be at that end of the scale and you might just think paying those prepared to work as much as you can afford to is really not such a bad thing. I employe people earning more than double that and life is still not easy for them and their families, they don't lead extravagant lifestyles etc and work hard for everything they have, if I could afford to pay them more I would (and hopefully will)
NZDan
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- Broomfield, New Zealand
It is a minimum wage, that means its the lowest possible wage to be aid to the very worst of employees. So I would expect some on that wage to have to live a very tight existence, if they have a family they should have up skilled or not had a family until they were qualified to earn a higher wage.
Athlete's Foot
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I agree that paying those who are prepared to work a decent wage is a good thing, but why pay those who don't want to work the same? crazy. You should be paid what you are worth. Market forces. I pay ALL of my staff above the minimum wage, any that are unproductive at that rate don't work here, so there are people who cannot work here because and only because they are not good enough, yet they would be in a job if they were able to take less, so in that case there are people who are unable to work here because of the minimum wage, no other reason. And you know those people do have a productive role to play in this society, its just that they are now unemployable. I would never not employ someone if they could pay their way, earn their wage so to speak, but the minimum wage has made them unemployable so this policy strikes them out of the jobs market. I don't think that is a good thing, not for the country, nor for them.
Blod
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It's the wage that you have to accept when there are plenty of other people wanting the one job.
plenty think they should be able to have what they can't afford
Grain Buyer
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- Omnipresent
Ha, I said the same thing on a different forum, and was branded a "sick Nazi"!!!
what i don't think so not the foot soldiers not round here
nurse band 1 14k a year
i know class 1 drivers on £6-8 an hour
refuse operator 15k a year
do you want me to continue
glasshouse
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- lothians
Wages are shite because the unions have no power now. All the power is with the employers, hence executives can scoop a million per year.
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