Amen to that
Intensive Beef
- Thread starter Clive
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Baling Hay
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Where does the alcohol come from?
fermentation I guess ? only low level but not a good thing
Suffolk Serf
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- Location
- Bury/Thetford
Alkaloids?
willie waver
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- Location
- walking in the ayr
you don't need to spend a fortune trying to run before you can walk. all you need is one hundred foot shed and a crush. stick 50 stores in it, fatten and sell, then repeat with another 50. if you find its working for you, put up another 100 foot shed.and another etc if not, sell the crush and use your shed for something else
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Current state of the markets and the insatiable demand for electricity, it must be better to put maize into an ad plant than dairy cows?
This is the truth of it. My neighbours AD plant runs on a mix of crops, including hybrid rye, which was whole cropped in July, had digestate spread on it, and now has a cover crop of mustard growing on it.
Food production doesn't pay at the moment.
that don't make it sustainable green or sensible and some folk talk about BPS payments that game is subsidised three times, if the whole bloody lot was shut down tomorrow I wouldn't be sorry
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- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Sustainable, green or sensible don't pay my bills, the more production that goes to energy and away from food, then the better for us peasant food producers
The greenest and most sustainable thing to do at the moment would be fallow, as we are producing food and getting paid less than COP.
harperfarmer
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Whilst I see your point I cant see fallow being too sustainable, it cleans ground up but buggers the soil structure up for a couple of years.
while we have subsidised Ag maybe a scheme to pay farmers to plant covers vs a cash crop each year would do more for the environment and cut production to levels that supported reasonable returns for what was still produced ?
however I would rather see the back of subsidised Ag all together than to plan a business around it !
however I would rather see the back of subsidised Ag all together than to plan a business around it !
One of the options in the new stewardship scheme is a two year legumous fallow, which at £200/acre, would be a good break crop. Don't suppose they would allow hundreds of acres of it though.
still don't stop it being a load of rubbish
Thick Farmer
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- Location
- West Wales
I spoke to a man this week who was getting paid £160/acre to grow unsprayed, spring barley. He said he would have covered the whole place in it if it wasn't for wanting to keep his beef herd.
thats interesting - I could use that on some poor land to maybe improve it
not looked at the new schemes - any links to published details yet ?
- Location
- Fife
The system is f**king madness. Wish someone would pay me not to drive a truck! All in the name of reducing carbon emissions you understand...
Thick Farmer
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- Location
- West Wales
The same fellow has a neighbour that pays him £40/acre to NOT keep sheep over winter!
- Location
- Fife
How does that work?
Thick Farmer
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- Location
- West Wales
The neighbour wants to be able to turn his dairy cows out early onto the ground so doesn't want sheep taking the early bite.