Dutch method is fine, you just need to use different measurements.
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Dutch method is fine, you just need to use different measurements.
www.nadis.org.uk/bulletins/lameness-control-in-dairy-herds/part-1-practical-foot-trimming-(dutch-5-step-method).aspx
Not a huge fan of the Dutch method on my big cows but in step1 it states "stop before sole thinning" test by give on thumb pressure.
I very rarely cut too deep but did on a cow last weekfeck I was mad with myself
It's one thing I don't like to do as it can soon make the situation worse. Queried that foot as the sole was still hard as there hadn't been much taken off, still higher than the inside.
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- Derbyshire
One tip... If you have digi AND slurry heel, always trim the loose horn off around the slurry heel. The cow will be in a lot of pain and will erode her toes by walking on the front of the foot... You can assume it is digi but it could be a sole fracture at the heel. You can see much better if you trim (without needing to affect the foot angle by trimming too much).
Been dealing more with sole fractures at the heel this year. Find them a real pain to deal with. Think it's maybe one part of the cow track that goes down a short ramp and because of the rain this year slipping a little often causes pressure. Don't see this when housed. Done a short course using Dutch 5 step teaches good habits I thought.
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- Derbyshire
This was one I dealt with. It was particularly nasty and very painful. The sole had run under. (This is pre prep for block and bandage).
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These are digital dermatitis. This farm had it bad! I had a lot of success with copper but a change in foot dipping regime helped. I think we discovered that the heifers were getting hit with it so I recommended running the heifers through the parlour several times per week so they could get used to being dipped.
jimmer
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I don't miss lame cows [emoji107]
Ange@progiene
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You could try Digicur Advanced a formulated footbath chemical used at 2% which has chelated copper and zinc. Message me for info.
jimmer
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- East Devon
Won't work
Hasn't got pomegranate in it .......
Hasn't got pomegranate in it .......
jimmer
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her foot wasnt red like the photo in real life , she came in this morning on her toes
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quick pit stop during milking and......
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pffftttt ,found the issue
enough height on the outer claw to see how she goes during the day , may well be putting a block on her this afternoon if no improvement
quick pit stop during milking and......
pffftttt ,found the issue
enough height on the outer claw to see how she goes during the day , may well be putting a block on her this afternoon if no improvement
jimmer
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- East Devon
walked in this afternoon much better
hopefully wont need a block before re exam next week
hopefully wont need a block before re exam next week
multi power
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Did you give her any ketofen?
jimmer
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- East Devon
multi power
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- pembrokeshire
So you fixed the problem, rather than hid it
jimmer
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- East Devon
will find out in the next few days
i made up a phrase about this
''knife before needle''
These cows NEED painkiller.
jimmer
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- East Devon
no offence intended
but when you work with them day in day out you get a feeling as to which ones need pain relief and which ones dont
jimmer
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- East Devon
and the point of my phrase is to pick her foot up before jabbing her willy nilly , then if a jab is needed it can be tailored to the problem rather than stab in the dark
Yes - lame cows need painkillers. Why do they limp?
We have to give them the benefit of the doubt. It's supported by research and practical experience.
Honestly in this day and age if an animal is in pain (LAME COWS ARE IN PAIN) then we have a duty to give painkiller
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