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At those solids I don't think so.have you put the grass wagon away now ?
Feed to yield instead of batch feeders
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Yes. Alright I lied, 1kg soya rape in the mix to balance the 50/50 grass Maize diet. Sorry.
Headless chicken
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No wonder your proteins are good if your putting that much maize in the mix
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Still good
I thought yours were similar
Headless chicken
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3.33-3.39 is where we're sat ATM so not too bad
Protein is driven by energy, so hoping it turns into conception rate.
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Are DC not encouraging you to keep feeding ?
I'll have a load of fat cows if I feed to hard. Not changing the plan for them or anyone.but if it's 30ppl in March, then I may not cut them back so much.
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Let's face it if they get fat you will be tempted to cash them in
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That's the only reason I'm feeding as hard as I am. Energy is everything.
buffalo_soldier
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How do your hfrs cope on that system?
Doing similar here this year, just using one mix for all and then topping up in parlour.
The worry i have is the TMR is set above most hfr yields.
They will need it tho won't they?
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Definitely
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I do that they don't eat the dry matter my base is 35kg but I call it 30kg for heifers and they are growing my heifers are often to thin.
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Thats what i'm telling myself, but they are starting to look "well" now, if you know what i mean.
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For me I like to keep it simple. 6kg flat rate most of the year. My high yielders have all the grass they want to eat. I want high yielders eating lots of forage not just being grain burners.
If the high yielders can't handle the 6kg grain and eat enough forage to sustain themselves they can go up the road.
Top yielders peaking over 60lt.
If the high yielders can't handle the 6kg grain and eat enough forage to sustain themselves they can go up the road.
Top yielders peaking over 60lt.
Young cows (1st lactation) get 8 weeks dry period, older cows get 7 weeks.
When dry, they get about 12 kg DM/day, 5 of them straw.
To me a cow is not "over fat" as long as she doesn't give me any problems.
We have problems with less than 5% of cows around calving.
But i do try to get cows pregnant fast, as low yield for too long equals problems.
But it does anyway, because i can't afford to have low yielders in my herd period.
I have a high debt, high input system, so i need a high output.
They do change some in weight over the lactation and skinny dry cows don't peak as high of for as long as the ones who can milk from their body. They can't eat enough with the TMR we feed them, to give 50 liter/day.
We feed about 21 kg DM/cow/day, of which about 8-9 kg is soda wheat, sugar beet pellets, osr cake and soybean meal. The rest is mostly maize silage and then a little grass.
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You want that. Heifers still growing and have a lower dry matter intake than cows.