what are rules using red diesel in tractor when it should be white?

sawdust

Member
Location
Argyll
PS Duel fuels are only allowed on vehicles if the red is used for operating a machine etc carried on the back and it has a separate tank for the white used for propulsion. You can’t just switch from red to white and vice versa without cleaning the whole fuel system down and also changing the taxation class of the vehicle, it will also bring into consideration other things such as tachometers and O licensing.
The system I mentioned had a complete purge system built in, but vosa were not interested
 

Bertram

Member
So if you're using a tractor that's normally on the farm and on red for occasional haulage - I'm thinking of moving a digger from town to local building site - is it ok just to chuck a tankful of DERV in? Obviously if stopped and dipped there would still be some red in the tank. I bet it isn't that simple, though it should be!
 

Kevtherev

Member
Location
Welshpool Powys
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Skimmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Notts
Technically no, because of the tax. I get that. But it's not for reward as such as it's just a favour. So even if I put a tankful of white in, I guess I'd still get what, fined? Tractor impounded?
Unless you are doing it on regular basis you are unlikely to get caught so I wouldn't worry about otherwise you need to run on white permanently.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
From what I've herd from a couple of mates over there it seems that with newer high speed tractors more farmers/contractors are using them for jobs where they really should be using a truck, hauling diggers on low loaders from site to site, using dump trailers to cart material off sites, Hauling stone etc for miles to build farm tracks etc.
With much cheaper costs they're undercutting firms that are doing things legally and they're starting to complain to the police about it.
Maybe that's what's happening in wales as contractors look for "other" work?
 
perhaps it is only a matter of time until tractors on charity road runs are checked what fuel is in the tank!!!
The Vintage Clubs here had a run in with C & Exise over this a few years ago. We got info from every club in the six counties and had a meeting with the head of C & Ex. and pointed out how much money was raised annually for Charity, and had calculated how much tax they were loosing. Thankfully they saw sense and there has been no trouble since, but it only takes one Jobsworth to upset the apple cart.
 

windymiller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
mid wales
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Local contractors combine absolute madness
Poor show Dyfed Powys police [emoji35]
I past them when going through town last Tuesday and wondered what they pulled him over for. T**ts.
Un secure load is another favourite with them at the moment, heard someone with 3 bags of feed in a flat bed trailer got pulled, tried doing him, he chucked em in the back of his pickup and pointed plod in the direction of travel. Heard another had his gator inpounded for something similar.
 

22Tomtom

New Member
Red dev was introduced to help produce cheap food for the country. But it is now used on construction, generators, anything that dose not go on the main road. The only thing aloud on the road running on red should be to do with producing food, simpils! And the rest should not be aloud, but that will only push up the price of the end product which will come back and bite most of us on the ass
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
I past them when going through town last Tuesday and wondered what they pulled him over for. T**ts.
Un secure load is another favourite with them at the moment, heard someone with 3 bags of feed in a flat bed trailer got pulled, tried doing him, he chucked em in the back of his pickup and pointed plod in the direction of travel. Heard another had his gator inpounded for something similar.

That's the trouble, the police really need better training in this area, or leave it to specialised units as they do here. Pulling you over then making stuff up is ridiculous.
As for the guy with the feed on his trailer it WAS an insecure load and he should have been pulled. He's the idiot there not the police especially as he could have put them in the pickup to start with.
 

windymiller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
mid wales
That's the trouble, the police really need better training in this area, or leave it to specialised units as they do here. Pulling you over then making stuff up is ridiculous.
As for the guy with the feed on his trailer it WAS an insecure load and he should have been pulled. He's the idiot there not the police especially as he could have put them in the pickup to start with.

Sorry should of explained better, the flat bed was an ifor williams with sides on, so wouldn't of slid off, and only talking 25kg bags.
 

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