jimcooke770
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Amazone Cayena : wide ,simple , split hopper , low disturbance ( with disc kit ) , light ,not expensive per meter .
whats not to like ?
whats not to like ?
Same price? That means Avatar without fertilizer must be much cheaper than 750a? Fertilizer in separate box: yes, but it is still drilled into the same slot and you can do that by mixing fertilizer and seed on any drill.In general yes, but in details definitely not.
Avatar build quality is exelent. And price is about the same, but with Avatar you get combi drill, with 5000L seed/fert box and more up do date drill for the money.
Same price? That means Avatar without fertilizer must be much cheaper than 750a? Fertilizer in separate box: yes, but it is still drilled into the same slot and you can do that by mixing fertilizer and seed on any drill.
How does anybody know if it is better build? It's so new and errors will first show up in several years. No other drill has drilled so many millions hectares in North- and South America, Russia and Australia as the JD single disc system.
The depth pressure system with the spring on the JD seems much more stable and logic than the 4 rubber pieces on the Horsch.
Horsch has also re-invented the power harrow. What will be next? A Horsch Plow?
The fert thing with 750a is not so simple at all.Same price? That means Avatar without fertilizer must be much cheaper than 750a? Fertilizer in separate box: yes, but it is still drilled into the same slot and you can do that by mixing fertilizer and seed on any drill.
How does anybody know if it is better build? It's so new and errors will first show up in several years. No other drill has drilled so many millions hectares in North- and South America, Russia and Australia as the JD single disc system.
The depth pressure system with the spring on the JD seems much more stable and logic than the 4 rubber pieces on the Horsch.
Horsch has also re-invented the power harrow. What will be next? A Horsch Plow?
The fert thing with 750a is not so simple at all.
Then 750a Is rubbish when it gets old.
And väderstad rapid has had those 4 rubber pieces for years and still does the yob perfectly.
In some ways this brings me back to another recent thread about the 750a where I said about it’s lack of development and bigger sizes. As Clive has taken the largest European spec machine 6m to the limit with retrofit bits and pieces. I dread to think what % of the initial purchase price he has added onto it to make the finished article but possibly another 40% at a guess.
If there was an 8m to 12m 750a that folded to 3m wide 4m high with decent sized hopper, liquid Fert, granular applicator, small seeds hopper, decent closing and depth control wheels and row cleaners then there would be no need for a 3rd drill.
The fert thing with 750a is not so simple at all.
Then 750a Is rubbish when it gets old.
And väderstad rapid has had those 4 rubber pieces for years and still does the yob perfectly.
My fert system cost me £9000 and this is the second drill it’s been fitted to
Fabrication of extra frame, hopper extension and auger etc was £8000 and a used stocks wizard £1500 for avadex
Drill was 67k at the time new
It could have been done cheaper but I wanted to do it to a factory standard
Overall cost per m still comparable to many other new drills that don’t have fert or avadex I think ?
Tobin No-till Tornado?
The fert thing with 750a is not so simple at all.
Then 750a Is rubbish when it gets old.
And väderstad rapid has had those 4 rubber pieces for years and still does the yob perfectly.
That’s what I was getting at and by the time you’ve added gutters and row cleaners and those upgraded depth wheels, working lights etc you’ll be getting upto 30k to make a full euro spec drill which is crazy in a lot of ways on a new machine. If it was mr Horsch or stark (Vaderstad) they would have done that themselves and more even if it was all available as different options
Found that one after doing some research to find some new drills to sell in europe.?? What’s one of those
But Vaddy can't even build a no till drill! And Horsch have copied the market leaders disc drill almost identically. I agree the 750 could do with being a bit cheaper and a bit more responsive to the market by dropping some bits and adding on others.
For all the pain in the arse bits of a 750 (there are a few here and there) it still only costs about £1/acre in parts to run. That is cheap drilling - you have to make your own decision on how much depreciation etc. you want to live with
Seedhawk! They just don't like selling them here because they'd rather sell a Topdown, Carrier & Rapid/Spirit instead