What old Round Baler?

TripleSix · Jul 6, 2018

@Selectamatic

Not that close to you though...

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Iben · Jul 6, 2018

Got a jd 510 sitting in the shed, perfect condition. String only and probably to far away for you?

Dave W · Jul 6, 2018

Vicon/Greenland RV series worth a look. Dad’s run one for 15 years and makes a good solid bale. The belts are as slick and shiny as you can get but it still bales

glasshouse · Jul 6, 2018

claas 46 is good, the 250 is better

oakleaf · Jul 6, 2018

glasshouse said:
claas 46 is good, the 250 is better

Cant believe what l have just read there.
We found claas 46 rc fine but everything that folllowed it a disaster. Tried 250 , 255 , 354 all tested us to the limit. Got a mcHale then . Never looked back.
Claas should stick to combines foragers and mowers. These are what they do well.

powerfarmer · Jul 6, 2018

I was working in a Claas dealer when the 250 came out, they were a huge disappointment. The first one was a supposed "heavy duty " version , axle came off it in the first week, wrecked the pickup and side panel.
The rest of them were all recalled ( by Claas ) within a month for various modifications....

Claas used to send over engineers from Germany every summer to monitor the machines, they never listened to the customers requests for better build quality, bigger bearings, stronger drive lines, greasable bearings etc.
One customer suggested they put a roller crop press on the balers (same as the foragers) the engineers wouldn't have it at all !!

hendrebc · Jul 6, 2018

David_ said:
We bought a Krone KR125 last summer for making haylage, mostly based on recommendations from TFF. It's a decent baler but it certainly has it's pitfalls. It's simple to maintain, makes a nice bale and being lat and chain it will bale anything but the pick up is very narrow doesn't pull in crop from outside the width (for example if you get a bit that escapes from the row)... bit annoying as we like to make a tidy job. Quite easy to block the pickup too if the going gets heavy. We prefer string but the string feed mechanism has given us some trouble although people generally say they are reliable. We'll stick with it but If I were to swap it I wouldn't buy another.

Why do you prefer string? Thats a new one for me!

glasshouse · Jul 6, 2018

powerfarmer said:
I was working in a Claas dealer when the 250 came out, they were a huge disappointment. The first one was a supposed "heavy duty " version , axle came off it in the first week, wrecked the pickup and side panel.
The rest of them were all recalled ( by Claas ) within a month for various modifications....

Claas used to send over engineers from Germany every summer to monitor the machines, they never listened to the customers requests for better build quality, bigger bearings, stronger drive lines, greasable bearings etc.
One customer suggested they put a roller crop press on the balers (same as the foragers) the engineers wouldn't have it at all !!

i like my 250, it has its quirks, but is easy to fix usually. mc hales are way too expensive.

glasshouse · Jul 6, 2018

hendrebc said:
Why do you prefer string? Thats a new one for me!

cheaper

David. · Jul 6, 2018

If you store outside and get snow/ice, wrap is a pain.

roscoe erf · Jul 6, 2018

Dave W said:
For what reason out of curiosity?
I’ve sold and used loads of 545/550 and I really rate them but I’ve heard lots of folk dislike them

ok on straw an absolute nightmare on any thing else spent more time under it than bailing

hendrebc · Jul 6, 2018

glasshouse said:
cheaper

I think when i worked it out with mine net came to 40p and string was 14p but i cant remember how many wraps of each. I did all string that season but didnt do it again what a ballache getting it all off

Net isnt great when its frozen though even through wrap

but string is a pain every time think ill stick with net

Ray996 · Jul 6, 2018

Selectamatic said:
I've been thinking...

I might get a chance to get my hands on some more land next year. If I did, I would be baling some round bales, keeping the middle bit for hay, weather dependant...

So... I'm thinking of buying a round baler!

I know, it's a doolally idea, and a contractor one is the way forward, but, I've always fancied one!

Question is, what would you recommend me as an old round baler to go behind a 60 - 80hp tractor?

I've been used to Welger RP12's in the past, they seemed ok back then, but what were they like compared to the competition...?

Also, are knives essential?

Go On, call me mad, then tell me what you think...!

Had a class 44 for years and totally bombproof,two bearings and few pickup times all it ever had,baled lot of silage with it and hay but did us fine,we only had 20+ acres but perfect for us ,easy maintenance and fine behind 1490!

Ray996 · Jul 6, 2018

John100 said:
They are all infuriating crap, pick a colour you fancy? You can always flog it to latvia

sold my baler to Poland last year !

Drillman · Jul 7, 2018

glasshouse said:
cheaper

Is it though when you take all that time with the tractor revving away doing nowt while the string is applied into account. Diesel isn't cheap anymore for a start, neither is the labour element even if it's only your own time. Then there is the wear and tear on the baler with a full bale churning round in the chamber for ages. Better to get the net on, get the bale out and another one made. Especially if you have a lot to do or the weather is catchy.

PuG · Jul 7, 2018

John Deere 575 you can pick up cheap that look tidy, wide pick up, easy, good with all crops, silage, hay, straw, tidy bales and fairly simple and she doesn't need that much power. Only thing is check condition of the rubber feed roller on the netting mechanism and factor in cost of a replacement (about £500).

Boohoo · Jul 7, 2018

PuG said:
John Deere 575 you can pick up cheap that look tidy, wide pick up, easy, good with all crops, silage, hay, straw, tidy bales and fairly simple and she doesn't need that much power. Only thing is check condition of the rubber feed roller on the netting mechanism and factor in cost of a replacement (about £500).

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Having driven and rebuilt a 575 I'd say it's one to avoid. They make a good bale of silage but need 150hp to do it, hay sticks in them, straw stops turning in them, the pick up and stub augers are easily blocked and the netwrap system is the most unreliable I've used. The 578 wasn't any better

Deepseaman · Jul 7, 2018

I use a Krone 1510 , what about a v1500 .
They make really good bales , I'm pretty happy with mine.

glasshouse · Jul 7, 2018

Drillman said:
Is it though when you take all that time with the tractor revving away doing nowt while the string is applied into account. Diesel isn't cheap anymore for a start, neither is the labour element even if it's only your own time. Then there is the wear and tear on the baler with a full bale churning round in the chamber for ages. Better to get the net on, get the bale out and another one made. Especially if you have a lot to do or the weather is catchy.

Of course.
But smaller growers have different pressures.
Twine can be applied more easily if your jd mechanism refuses to wrap

PuG · Jul 7, 2018

Comes down to luck, the individual I think or they did a duff job on the rebuild. Until this year always pulled her with Ford 5000 on steep land. No problems with anything you can throw at her and considered I baled allot of short grained barley only last year and silage.. All balers have there own quirks - I think more of the question is whats available in the area and for what price?

Previous farmer here always used twine -prefer net is its quicker to take of the bale during winter and easier when you've got frozen fingers

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