76masseyman
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- Lincolncestershire
Swivel ok if the tractor has clevis fitted and using a pin. But the swivel is disastrous on a hook if you are able to get the tractor and trailer at nearly 90 degrees angles to each other.
So what happened
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- Bedfordshire
Regarding the 29mpg Fendt bs thread, was the proof ever supplied and the wagers settled, or did it all just go silent for a while? Maybe it should be bumped !
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- Huntingdon, UK
With all these new smileys is there a ‘Stirring the Pot smiley’?
Was the Fendt pulling a wagon at the time as well........?
Ball and spoon hitches are not a swivel hitch , they can only turn so far. I have swivel hitches on a Redrock dump trailer and a Major tanker. Never turned either over to see how they work. As for the driver and the tractor hopping , it should only hop once then drop the revs right down and give it time to grip and if that fails use the f...nig clutch . Put the tractor in low first and reverse in down the hill .Better to just get a ball and spoon hitch in that case since those will also allow the implement to tip over independently of the tractor.
There's your reason.
Now why ball and spoon isn't universal nowadays is a good question...
I think it was established that it was a mathematical miscalculation mixing litres with gallons.
Or it could have been one of those special calculators that some farmers use to work out how many acres a contractor has cut, picked up, combined etc
However it will keep cropping up in TFF folklore for years to come along with exploding oil filters and dB diffs.
Frankzy
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- Jamtland, Sweden
No they are not swivels but when the spoon has rotated close to 90 degrees it will hit the part of the hitch directly under the ball and just pop out straight to the side.
Therefore in the event of a turnover it functions the same albeit with the downside that it's not connected in any way and as such the trailer /wagon/implement may go tumbling down a hill or whatever... Actually on second thought it might be a plus to not still be connected to something that is about to tip...
Frankzy
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- Jamtland, Sweden
I think it was established that it was a mathematical miscalculation mixing litres with gallons.
Or it could have been one of those special calculators that some farmers use to work out how many acres a contractor has cut, picked up, combined etc
However it will keep cropping up in TFF folklore for years to come along with exploding oil filters and dB diffs.
It's a part of TFF lore because he himself still claims that it is the correct numbers. Had he just said in the next post "ooops my bad mixed up litre/gallons/miles/kilometres those numbers are indeed too good to be true" nobody would've cared for more than a few minutes
Suckndiesel
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- Newtownards
As previously mentioned i believe he said it was the s4 software that made it possible.
The s4 software wasn’t around long and was rectified by Casio at their calculator factory
The s4 software wasn’t around long and was rectified by Casio at their calculator factory
dowcow
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- Lancashire
We had one of those old home made trailers with roof tins and a single axle. Held 3 or 4 ton if that. Story was that everybody had rolled it at some point back in the day. Mother, father, everyone that ever drove for them. Even watched my father roll it one time going through a rutted gateway less than walking pace. It just swayed one way down a rut and then swayed back the other way even further and over. I think I remember it having a 5 gallon drum of water strapped to the back door, presumably to add weight to make/keep it closed, or just stop it rattling maybe. No lights or brakes, naturally, and probably held together with spud bag ties and bits of baling twine
holywell farmer
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- holywell, north wales
It's not professional for 2 contractors to have public spat like this, be careful your customers might see this !
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
Wise words, Holywell.
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- Bedfordshire
It’s not I agree but it is quite amusing
holywell farmer
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- holywell, north wales
Not going name anyone but some contractors on here act like spoilt children with big kit,
ollie989898
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90 degrees in what axis? I have pulled fairly long and heavy trailers that were equipped with swivels. I can't say I have ever had to get one at near 90 degrees to the tractor though, do you think the ring would escape the keeper?
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
When we've had trailers tipped they have escaped the keeper. Tractor stayed upright.
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
I think he means if you rolled the trailer with a ring and hook it would take the tractor over. With a ball and spoon it would just pop off.
We had a trailer over here once or twice (students) and on one occasion the ring snapped, on the other it twisted the hook and keeper and popped off, never took the tractor over.
Looking at the ball and spoon hitches here, it is impossible for it disconnect without the keeper breaking in some way.
ollie989898
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Ah I see. I've never seen a trailer go over like that, I know of one that went over because of speed and a bend in the road. Must have fairly woke the bloke driving it up.
76masseyman
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- Lincolncestershire
If turning very sharp, like reversing into a tight spot. The one I saw have a problem was reversing around a corner, the tyre against the drawbar stopped progress, but the ring wasn’t far off swinging under the hook.
The same reason why some like soap operas.
Actually it is a shame a thread like this descends to name calling bull because it can serve as a reminder that mistakes can be made by experienced competent operators when everything is busy and being pushed hard. It also highlights, as several have pointed out, the shortcomings of some expensive heavy machinery in an emergency situation well into the 21st century.
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- norfolk
I’m surprised this thread wasn’t closed 11 pages ago, there’s no need for half of the comments IMO