multi power
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- pembrokeshire
I know of at least 2 in Wales, one doesn't even have a roof on the parlour
Heifers wont lie in cubicles
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Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
Saved 10k not roofing the parlour and probably lost 10k in depreciation on a new pickup in the same year.
Does the owner actually milk themselves?
A rhetorical question?
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- somerset
you've done it the same way we did, except we milked some of our sucklers ! You see so many farmers 'investing' in new sheds, or start off with every thing new, new parlours etc. It all has to be paid for, and the profit margins are not great. Well done.
BobbySusie
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Thanks, I looked to borrow the money for the fancy gear, and i would have pushed myself to the brink. I have see my dad lose everything and i wont repeat that mistake.
How did you get on milking the sucklers. I have two shorthorn x friesian heifers that are in calf. They are pets and i'd love to keep them.
multi power
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- pembrokeshire
I doubt it
multi power
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I did wonder if he has a tractor with a cab, a lot more time spent milking than in a tractor
I’m guilty of not giving praise where it’s due,myself I’d have begged stolen or borrowed to have a roof over the cubicles
I rest my case!
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- M6 Hard shoulder
Depends if he has a female hand milker [emoji44]
Your two shorthorns will be excellent cows for your OAD system. And when they get back incalf, you'll only have to milk them once a week. Shorthorns are brilliant cows.
There is some things which should be bought new a parlour and bulk tank is one by the time you buy secondhand and pay to get installed have repairs on old equipment youd be far better of buying new from day one
BobbySusie
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'pay to get installed' Who said I'm doing such a thing. I am doing the installation my self. The bulk tank is and working. I refilled it with gas last night. The compressor is only 6 months old. I have the vacuum pump and lines ran for the parlour. The frame will go in over the next few weeks. Then i'll change the rubber and test the vacuum and its ready to milk.
Most people who say 'There is some things which should be bought new' have been sold the merry dream by a rep, or have an entirely different set of financial circumstances to me.
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- somerset
sorry, do not agree, when we went back into milk, I bought an old abreast parlour, £100, bulk tank was £1000, all fitted, less than £10,000, When we replaced with h/bone, that cost £15,000, the extension from 16/16 to 24/24, an extra £10,000, which included newish feeders, and cluster flush, we had 4 parlours to salvage from, and the fitter ended up with a great pile of spares, which he knocked off the bill. You have to keep your eyes/ears open, there are plenty of newish parlours about, standing idle, because of herd sales, often because they borrowed too much money, putting them in. The depreciation on a new parlour, is eyewatering.
multi power
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- pembrokeshire
Nonsense, dairy equipment is stainless steel and virtually lasts forever
Nonsense, dairy equipment is stainless steel and virtually lasts foreve
Vaccum pumps milk pumps compressor bulk tank washers all have a lifespan when they give up its usually a sunday you have a hefty call out charge and have no bargaining power on the part hes going to install.Bought a second hand parlour and tAnk years ago the only way i could ever see it make sense if it was a short term or you were getting the secpnd hand stuff for next to nothing[/QUOTE]
Vaccum pumps milk pumps compressor bulk tank washers all have a lifespan when they give up its usually a sunday you have a hefty call out charge and have no bargaining power on the part hes going to install.Bought a second hand parlour and tAnk years ago the only way i could ever see it make sense if it was a short term or you were getting the secpnd hand stuff for next to nothing[/QUOTE]
dannewhouse
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- huddersfield
It all depends on the costs involved, it's pointless spending 10k or more installing a 2.5k parlour but if you're doing it yourself at say 500 the "project" cost has gone from 12.5k to 3k it should be represented as a% of the project.
Machinery is the same if you can stand the down time and repair yourself cheaply old tackle is ok but if you're paying a mechanic or can't stand down time, it's better to pay the finance rather than the repair. Bills.
Machinery is the same if you can stand the down time and repair yourself cheaply old tackle is ok but if you're paying a mechanic or can't stand down time, it's better to pay the finance rather than the repair. Bills.
Princess Pooper
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- East Mids
GEA Westfalia second hand 12/12 herringbone, conductivity and milk meters, cluster flushes, variable speed vacuum pump, plate coolers, wash tub etc. All computerised, only used for 2 years. £15k, plus £8k for the parlour fitters (who installed it new) to both remove, transport and rebuild, including all stallwork and feeders. All rubber work replaced within that deal as it had sat idle for 2 years. Wouldn't get that brand new and we did not do any work on it at all. The only thing we changed was new augers for the feeders as they were a lot older than the parlour. Wouldn't get that lot new for that price! (And yes we only wanted a 12/12 for up to 100 cows). That was in 2015 and have never once regretted it.
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Next door bought a new tank and the compressor failed at 18mth old,new doesn’t always mean reliability,all my tanks have been 2nd hand,they owe me nothing.
Where you need new or a good dealer is when you don’t know how to wire a plug or solve a single problem,I’ve just put 10m litres through my parlour and it’s never seen a dealer or fitter.
Next door bought a new tank and the compressor failed at 18mth old,new doesn’t always mean reliability,all my tanks have been 2nd hand,they owe me nothing.
Where you need new or a good dealer is when you don’t know how to wire a plug or solve a single problem,I’ve just put 10m litres through my parlour and it’s never seen a dealer or fitter.
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You need a good dealer to get parts off do you think threre going to call out to you on sunday morning and fit a compressor or vaccum pump or give you one yourself to fit if you never dealt with them before.