Alexa ,,in simple language

BobGreen

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Scribus

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Central Atlantic
Agreed

I can do it through training

Now I know I’d probably put Alexa on too

Sensible meme put out by a local fire station

They should know better, but are probably caught up with the stupidity that the great god digital will provide all the answers as well.

Having had to perform CPR on my daughter the worst thing that could have happened was not knowing what to do there and then. Faffing about tring to communicate with the saintly cloud could well have been detrimental, maybe fatal, we'll never know.
 

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
They should know better, but are probably caught up with the stupidity that the great god digital will provide all the answers as well.

Having had to perform CPR on my daughter the worst thing that could have happened was not knowing what to do there and then. Faffing about tring to communicate with the saintly cloud could well have been detrimental, maybe fatal, we'll never know.

Hmm. Going a bit Off Topic. If there's a medical emergency you deal with it. In theory you should know what to do. Most don't and just panic. That's why defibrillators have a voice aid so you follow procedure.

I think you want to pin blame on a cloud based system. If it's there too, I think it warrants folks remembering it's available
 

Scribus

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Hmm. Going a bit Off Topic. If there's a medical emergency you deal with it. In theory you should know what to do. Most don't and just panic. That's why defibrillators have a voice aid so you follow procedure.

I think you want to pin blame on a cloud based system. If it's there too, I think it warrants folks remembering it's available

Pin the blame for what?
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
By which time it may well be too late. CPR needs giving ASAP, go get proper training not rely on crappy toys when everyone is in a flap.

It’s better than nothing, and any help is good in an emergency. It will certainly save more lives than not, to have information instantly available.

As an aside:
Do you have any idea how bitter your posts read? Making up nonsense about mind reading devices (I note you’ve declined to reply to me on that one) and dismissing anything electronic as bad. Really, if that’s how you think and what you believe, you’re probably better off without being on here.
 

Scribus

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It’s better than nothing, and any help is good in an emergency. It will certainly save more lives than not, to have information instantly available.

As an aside:
Do you have any idea how bitter your posts read? Making up nonsense about mind reading devices (I note you’ve declined to reply to me on that one) and dismissing anything electronic as bad. Really, if that’s how you think and what you believe, you’re probably better off without being on here.

Do you lads realise how fanatical you sound about your great god digital? You are as bad as any bunch of vegans. If I sound bitter it's probably because you can't cope with your cherished beliefs being so openly questioned.

Now go back and read my posts, I have not dismissed everything electronic as bad, only the surrender to the IT world without question or thought as to what it means to the individual and society as a whole. Some of us have stepped out of that channel and see you and many other people being manipulated and controlled by commerce and ultimately the state. Another poster on here has already mentioned Cambridge Analytica as just being the tip of the iceberg, but you just don't want to know, so besotted are you.

How many lives may be lost because people don't bother getting themselves trained properly but think that all will be grand because a product from a somewhat merciless corporation is on the case?
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Do you lads realise how fanatical you sound about your great god digital? You are as bad as any bunch of vegans. If I sound bitter it's probably because you can't cope with your cherished beliefs being so openly questioned.

Now go back and read my posts, I have not dismissed everything electronic as bad, only the surrender to the IT world without question or thought as to what it means to the individual and society as a whole. Some of us have stepped out of that channel and see you and many other people being manipulated and controlled by commerce and ultimately the state. Another poster on here has already mentioned Cambridge Analytica as just being the tip of the iceberg, but you just don't want to know, so besotted are you.

How many lives may be lost because people don't bother getting themselves trained properly but think that all will be grand because a product from a somewhat merciless corporation is on the case?

I think you’re confusing me with someone else - I’m ambivalent, open minded and devoid of most devices, including Alexa. I just pick up your extreme negativity and find it tragic, that’s all - there are clearly positive and negative sides to all technologies and yet you never see the former, and exaggerate the latter beyond truth.

Now, care to explain why you claimed that Alexa could read one’s mind (post 42).
 

manhill

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but why does it matter ? - laws protect you from any of that data becoming public or used by others without your permission



As you say tech is too useful for anyone to turn away from it willingly. so as I said AI is the new god .............. we had all best get used to it and stop fearing hat because its happening
Better keep a paper system for backup, just in case. Try hacking into that then you nasty spy!!
 

manhill

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I think you’re confusing me with someone else - I’m ambivalent, open minded and devoid of most devices, including Alexa. I just pick up your extreme negativity and find it tragic, that’s all - there are clearly positive and negative sides to all technologies and yet you never see the former, and exaggerate the latter beyond truth.

Now, care to explain why you claimed that Alexa could read one’s mind (post 42).
It can read one's speech though.
 

Clive

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Do you lads realise how fanatical you sound about your great god digital? You are as bad as any bunch of vegans. If I sound bitter it's probably because you can't cope with your cherished beliefs being so openly questioned.

Now go back and read my posts, I have not dismissed everything electronic as bad, only the surrender to the IT world without question or thought as to what it means to the individual and society as a whole. Some of us have stepped out of that channel and see you and many other people being manipulated and controlled by commerce and ultimately the state. Another poster on here has already mentioned Cambridge Analytica as just being the tip of the iceberg, but you just don't want to know, so besotted are you.

How many lives may be lost because people don't bother getting themselves trained properly but think that all will be grand because a product from a somewhat merciless corporation is on the case?


I can't get over the irony of you posting all this on ........................... the internet :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

Scribus

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I think you’re confusing me with someone else - I’m ambivalent, open minded and devoid of most devices, including Alexa. I just pick up your extreme negativity and find it tragic, that’s all - there are clearly positive and negative sides to all technologies and yet you never see the former, and exaggerate the latter beyond truth.

Now, care to explain why you claimed that Alexa could read one’s mind (post 42).

Who's truth?

But anyway, this from the MIT, although the institute appears to be little more than a cheerleader for the subjugation of the human spirit by algorithm, all for the greater profit of the great US corporations. They were once heavily pushing AVs, but we don't hear so much about that nowdays.

What makes voice-based AI so appealing to consumers is its promise to conform to us, to respond to the way we speak—and think—without requiring us to type on a keyboard or screen. That’s also what makes it so technically difficult to build. We aren’t at all orderly when we talk. Instead, we interrupt ourselves. We let thoughts dangle. We use words, nods, and grunts in odd ways, and we assume that we’re making sense even when we aren’t.

 

Scribus

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I can't get over the irony of you posting all this on ........................... the internet :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Right on cue Clive you swoop on down to reinforce a major objection to the surrender to IT at a personal level. Have you really stopped thinking altogether? Basically what you are saying that is that if we are to take any benefit from IT then then we must take everything it throws at us without question. Let us apply the same thought process to recreational drugs. By your standards should anybody partake of a beer or glass of wine then they should also be happy to blow their mind daily on coke, but do you? No, well, I assume not anyway.

I am quite happy to enjoy many of the benefits that IT has bought, the increased reliability of modern cars being one example, CAD is a great boon to engineering as is numerically controlled machining. But that does not mean to say that I accept the gross intrusion into my life that the modern internet brings. As I have pointed out already, I was once a foot soldier of the great internet revolution until it became quite clear that it was to be used to exploit people rather than serve society in a benign fashion, that's when I dropped out, took a long had look at what's happening and started waving the red flag.

However, I also appreciate that you have the choice in whether to turn off your critical faculties or not, but I would ask that you don't impose your toxic notions upon the rest of us.
 

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
Right on cue Clive you swoop on down to reinforce a major objection to the surrender to IT at a personal level. Have you really stopped thinking altogether? Basically what you are saying that is that if we are to take any benefit from IT then then we must take everything it throws at us without question. Let us apply the same thought process to recreational drugs. By your standards should anybody partake of a beer or glass of wine then they should also be happy to blow their mind daily on coke, but do you? No, well, I assume not anyway.

I am quite happy to enjoy many of the benefits that IT has bought, the increased reliability of modern cars being one example, CAD is a great boon to engineering as is numerically controlled machining. But that does not mean to say that I accept the gross intrusion into my life that the modern internet brings. As I have pointed out already, I was once a foot soldier of the great internet revolution until it became quite clear that it was to be used to exploit people rather than serve society in a benign fashion, that's when I dropped out, took a long had look at what's happening and started waving the red flag.

However, I also appreciate that you have the choice in whether to turn off your critical faculties or not, but I would ask that you don't impose your toxic notions upon the rest of us.
Just on the of chance , have you ever refused to get on any of O'Leary's (or any other carrier's) modern aeroplanes because they work (partly) on via computers and even the human pilot has to pull levers that are fly by electrical wire rather than an actual rod or wire ?
 

Scribus

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Just on the of chance , have you ever refused to get on any of O'Leary's (or any other carrier's) modern aeroplanes because they work (partly) on via computers and even the human pilot has to pull levers that are fly by electrical wire rather than an actual rod or wire ?
I've answered that point in the very post you reply to.
 

milkloss

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East Sussex
All a bit extreme. It's just a bit of fun for us for things like kids music, kitchen timers etc. I haven't noticed any intrusion into my life from it and couldn't care what it heard to be honest. Yes, it's an information gathering sales tool but we all know that, it was obvious from the start. Eyes wide open and all that.
 

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