Greythundercloudys
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Guy on the news saying he's had to pour milk down the drain. Is this the case all over.
Dairy supply, to much milk.
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Timbo
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- Location
- Gods County
Muller published a letter expecting their producers to drop production 3% immediately, more may be required if they still have too much.
Believe some people have been dumping milk .
Believe some people have been dumping milk .
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Lassie I follow on Instagram (Ireland - in not sure if in Rep. or Northern) posted last week they were having to dump milk because of the virus. I guess it was because of 'over production'
- Location
- Cornwall
Sounds like there's quite a few having to do it. Sad state of affairs!
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
ollie989898
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Ridiculous. You would think the government would just ask people to give their excess away?
- Location
- North West England
Yet some shops are still limiting how much milk customers can buy.
Princess Pooper
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- Location
- East Mids
not quite that simple! TB restrictions for one, we are even buying pasteurised milk not drinking our own, due to TB.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Actually you can't give it away. They charge 7ppl to dispose of it at sewerage works and if our milk is collected and they can't find a buyer for it, even at 5ppl spot price, or any price, we have to pay the 7p.
So rather than pay 7ppl, it's obviously preferable to bite one's lips and pour it into the slurry store.
Bossfarmer
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- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
am i right in saying the supermarket aligned guys are getting a price rise to make up for this?
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
That's because the bottling plants are working flat out to meet the increased demand from people sitting at home drinking coffee, while the factories that packed for the catering trade have seen demand disappear and are dumping milk on the spot market where there is only a limited capacity to process the extra. It is carnage out there in the milk market.
If it wasn't for the one indeterminate reactor to the tb test, I would have done the same as a large dairy farmer near Carmarthen [not that one!] did the other day, and sold the whole herd off to cut his losses.
I anticipate, hopefully wrongly, that my average milk price for April and May will be around 12ppl, when my cost of production is double that even at this time of year. That will yield me, a relatively small producer, £15,000/month loss.
I hope I'm wrong.
It's like @Cowabunga says, the demand has been skewed.
Retail demand has increased, I heard something like 167% increase in demand for butter with people at home baking. Increase in demand for blocks of cheese and jugs of milk and 500mL's of cream.
Decrease in things like large containers of cream for coffee places, shredded cheese for restaurants, tubs of sour cream, etc.
With people staying home and not eating out, the dairy products in demand have shifted. The processing facilities can't keep up and the packaging material isn't there even if they could. It will take time to shift towards what's in demand now and what isn't.
Just because they are dumping milk doesn't mean that milk was available to be put into a jug, or the jug was available, and onto the store shelf to stop the store from putting limits on.
Retail demand has increased, I heard something like 167% increase in demand for butter with people at home baking. Increase in demand for blocks of cheese and jugs of milk and 500mL's of cream.
Decrease in things like large containers of cream for coffee places, shredded cheese for restaurants, tubs of sour cream, etc.
With people staying home and not eating out, the dairy products in demand have shifted. The processing facilities can't keep up and the packaging material isn't there even if they could. It will take time to shift towards what's in demand now and what isn't.
Just because they are dumping milk doesn't mean that milk was available to be put into a jug, or the jug was available, and onto the store shelf to stop the store from putting limits on.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Demand must be about the same . Just distribution is messed up ,
We are using 4 times the milk we did as all the family is home
We are using 4 times the milk we did as all the family is home
ollie989898
Member
I reckon we are double and we use a lot.
Do you think the demand of flour is still the same?
Bakeries won't be needing their giant 50lb + bags of flour or the types they needed. Cake flour. Bread flour. Specialized mixes.
However retail flour has increased. Smaller bags. All purpose flour for the most part. Probably more whole wheat.
Apply that to dairy yet you've got 100 other products involved based on the processing. Cream percentages, cheese, yogurt, ice cream, sour cream, butter....
Much like the meat sectors all of a sudden struggling because people not eating out has dropped the demand in ground beef.
The restaurant industry has lost an exponential amount of revenue in this. What they would normally be using they aren't. That demand is not there. Instead it's people at home who, while demanding the same, aren't really demanding the same. They want different sizes of packaging and different cuts/qualities/end products/etc.
Maybe the quantity demand is the similar as a whole, but nothing else is.
willie waver
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- Location
- walking in the ayr
is it any different to the old quota days? many a year we had to get rid of extra milk or skim the cream to lower the butterfat the last month of the year
Princess Pooper
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- Location
- East Mids
no, much fewer lattes drunk at home than when folks are out and about.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
I don't believe it. What have all the millions of people stuck at home to do apart from drinking coffee? Unless they are young and shacked up with a randy lover of course. But still, a coffee afterwards, every time, [without the traditional cigarette] must still count. It all takes milk and it supplies all the calcium and energy needed for quarantine.
Latte is all milk I believe.
Coffee at home would have a thimble full
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