Autumn manure banned

texelburger

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
MP's have been known from the early 70's from my understanding, along with the inception of OXO degrading additives to help with the issues of littered plastics, but only over say the last 20 years have they been openly investigating geographical dispersion / impacts, so these issues 'may' have been ignored or - the problem known and possibly buried in myriads of paperwork, who knows, as we are mere individuals.

I agree with the drivers you mention above, having vast resources to your bank balance does help sway things and ironically, the spreading of SS on land can also impact the rivers / sea when you unfortunately get run off entering the waterways - whereby its then the Farmers that then get the blame - for both pollution sources..

It's a strange acceptance of blame for me.
Also during high levels of rainfall,water companies are allowed to discharge pure,untreated sewage into our local river.Ive seen it,myself,in two locations.What outcry would there be if farmers did the same.
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
Also during high levels of rainfall,water companies are allowed to discharge pure,untreated sewage into our local river.Ive seen it,myself,in two locations.What outcry would there be if farmers did the same.
Are you saying none ever do?

It IS a travesty that most sewage works licences allow a given number of "emergency discharges" per year before they are held to be in breach of their discharge consent. Even worse, due to falling EA staff numbers, much of the monitoring is left to the sewage companies to do themselves!

The Anglers are onto it though. There is a huge campaign going to force them to stop such discharges, figurehead by Feargal Sharkey. (y)
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
Yes, they do seem to be mega-concerned about P in NL agriculture - agricultural P pollution seems mainly to be a soil erosion problem in the UK though.

You would have to reduce volume/weight to move manures any distance - dry and pelletise poultry manure or slurry solids say, good stuff but not currently economically viable compared to bagged NPK. But if the only legal alternative is to pass it through a sewage works it may stack up as it seems to in NL.
Expect punitive taxes on fertiliser at some point to change that calculation.....
 

texelburger

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
Are you saying none ever do?

It IS a travesty that most sewage works licences allow a given number of "emergency discharges" per year before they are held to be in breach of their discharge consent. Even worse, due to falling EA staff numbers, much of the monitoring is left to the sewage companies to do themselves!

The Anglers are onto it though. There is a huge campaign going to force them to stop such discharges, figurehead by Feargal Sharkey. (y)
I honestly can't recall any,farmers,locally,doing any such thing deliberately .We have 3 farms on the river and on one I have a fishing syndicate,they are on the case too.
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
if its polluting should we be using it ?

i commented on a facebook image of someone spreading slurry on a hard frost a hill with river at the bottom and the replies were clearly oblivious to the pollution- congratulatory to the operator for using the frost to “get on” in really wet in conditions !!


we are our own worst enemy sometimes that’s for sure

i would have no issue with banning application end of September- late march ?
Whilst I agree we can be our own worst enemy, blanket bans can be counter productive . We see it now, end of the closed period the spreaders are out come what may, all chucking it on as fast as possible. The closed period creates a high risk issue when it finishes.
It happens when you try and legislate against many things. Education is what's needed, and local conditions vary across a county let alone the country.
We usually get more growth to utilise N here in September and October than we do in March. Often in November and December too.
Spreading slurry on steep ground near a river is no better in May than in September, or February, if heavy rain is imminent.
 

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