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Treg · Apr 15, 2021

Hilly said:
I read what the man said as tons per acre raise you ph but damages soil , 15kg wakes up soil and it corrects its own ph , worth trying I’d say not just discounting as ballocks because we have been told since the 50’s to put Tons on , tell them enough times and they believe it’s right for ever . I’m all for trying anything especially if it’s potential to save me a bloody fortune lol and if fails I will be the first to let you all know it’s rubbish

Thank you yes that's what I was trying to say.
Also little and often and mixed with dung / slurry is the best way.

Hilly · Apr 15, 2021

Treg said:
Thank you yes that's what I was trying to say.
Also little and often and mixed with dung / slurry is the best way.

I’ve often thought about sticking some in the Above ground slurry store Cos I can tip it over the top , would it work or would it just sink to the bottom and left in the store ?

Skintagain · Apr 15, 2021

Hilly said:
How much is prilled lime ?

120 per tonne last time I bought a bit I think

Hilly · Apr 15, 2021

Skintagain said:
120 per tonne last time I bought a bit I think

Expensive mind for what it is .

Treg · Apr 15, 2021

balerman said:
Utter rubbish.

I'm only saying what modern soil scientists are saying, I think on arable land it maybe hard to achieve but on livestock farms there would be something wrong if you didn't have enough biology in the soil to do the work.

Treg · Apr 15, 2021

Hilly said:
I’ve often thought about sticking some in the Above ground slurry store Cos I can tip it over the top , would it work or would it just sink to the bottom and left in the store ?

That's what I'm planning this year with my dirty water , 10kgs/ per load in the pit & stir.
I use mixed bedding lime in the calving shed.
Will use hydrated lime in dirty water.

fieldfarmer · Apr 15, 2021

Hilly said:
I don’t think some of you are taking on board what the man said .

Well as someone who uses up to 2 ton of ground lime down to prilled lime at 200 kgs down tramlines if a feild needs a top up and would test everything once in 3 yrs, I have a fairly good idea whats going on from the resulting test and what the man is saying, but I have seen nothing to back up this claim.

Hilly · Apr 15, 2021

fieldfarmer said:
Well as someone who uses up to 2 ton of ground lime down to prilled lime at 200 kgs down tramlines if a feild needs a top up and would test everything once in 3 yrs, I have a fairly good idea whats going on from the resulting test and what the man is saying, but I have seen nothing to back up this claim.

Maybe your putting too much on ? That’s the claim. Try it ? Nothing to loose a lot to gain . Have you muck to spread livestock ?

Skintagain · Apr 15, 2021

I think maybe grass with livestock is a different kettle of fish to arable in this instance on soil biology

Mc115reed · Apr 15, 2021

Have I walked into the wrong room here? [emoji23]

livestock 1 · Apr 15, 2021

Hilly said:
How much is prilled lime ?

Peopled lime is polished dog sh!t

Hilly · Apr 15, 2021

livestock 1 said:
Peopled lime is polished dog sh!t

Scientific observation .

Treg · Apr 15, 2021

Mc115reed said:
Have I walked into the wrong room here? [emoji23]

Not much point putting prices as most places are paying over what they quote atm.
Just had £1352 for a Beef Shorthorn cull cow if that makes you happier

cattleman123 · Apr 15, 2021

Treg said:
Not much point putting prices as most places are paying over what they quote atm.
Just had £1352 for a Beef Shorthorn cull cow if that makes you happier

Thats better

Mc115reed · Apr 15, 2021

Treg said:
Not much point putting prices as most places are paying over what they quote atm.
Just had £1352 for a Beef Shorthorn cull cow if that makes you happier

I’m on withdrawal until the first week of June so I just come here too read the pages of rambling to be honest anyways [emoji23]

aangus · Apr 15, 2021

Eire beef base price €4.30/kg

fieldfarmer · Apr 15, 2021

Hilly said:
Maybe your putting too much on ? That’s the claim. Try it ? Nothing to loose a lot to gain . Have you muck to spread livestock ?

Livestock, yes, over 4000 ton muck spread last year here. Like it's said above, maybe only applies to grass ground.

Hilly · Apr 15, 2021

fieldfarmer said:
Livestock, yes, over 4000 ton muck spread last year here. Like it's said above, maybe only applies to grass ground.

Who knows , interesting though , imagine if it works , the savings .

Shebb90 · Apr 15, 2021

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Highland Mule · Apr 15, 2021

Treg said:
No your stimulating the soil biology, they do the neutralising.
Spreading 1 ton of lime is 1950s farming, the soil web was discovered in the 1980s so why do farmerrs still put on 1 ton of lime?
The modern soil scientists do not recommend high levels of lime , it's taking time to filter down to farmer level because most people want to sell us stuff.

Would be very interested in some details on this - can you put up any links? The chemistry part of me is struggling to think of a bio induced neutralising mechanism.

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