Suffolk Serf
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I've got three tractors and a forklift on about 48ha, each doing over 1000 hours per year each, using about 26000 litres of red per year in total. So rubbish to your idea!
Construction industry losing red diesel
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I've got three tractors and a forklift on about 48ha, each doing over 1000 hours per year each, using about 26000 litres of red per year in total. So rubbish to your idea!
R J
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will Aviation be loosing its fuel tax advantage too........?
as i say - the rebate could be adjusted farm to farm to suit system as long as the farm could justify and it compared to similar businesses
Suffolk Serf
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And I didn't put "rubbish" I put something approximating bullocks.
100% ag work ? if so and you could prove / justify that high use then no problem on your rebate, it would just be higher and come to the same as your red saves you today
For hire and reward it should be on white now
Suffolk Serf
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100% agricultural and probably 95% off road, that 5% being hauling purchased straw home.
anyone using red for drying grain is already wasting a lot of money btw - Kero or heating oil is way cheaper than red !
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The grain drying element is quite simple. Switch to kero. The price difference between red and zero is already in favour of kero, it's only the infrastructure on farms that keeps most using red for drying. Remove the lower duty level on gas oil and you will soon justify installing kerosene tanks for driers.
The break even point for drying between kerosene and gas oil is a 5% discount to make up for the lower calorific value of kero.
The break even point for drying between kerosene and gas oil is a 5% discount to make up for the lower calorific value of kero.
so easy to justify on your rebate claim then - whats the problem ?
it would just be like VAT - pay it and then claim it back on your legitimate use
gypo’s and dodgy digger operator wont be able to claim
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Easiest way to sort out a rebate between farm pickup and tractors is to use pickup milage from the yearly mot certificate to work out how much has been used on field or road.
OK I am not a farmer now I am in government and want to stay in power.
I need money to pay for the pandemic so I need tax revenue now. It needs to be easy to collect, not upset too many voters. Stealth tax.
Remove red diesel bingo!
Bonus now Greta and David Atenbourgh have won the climate change debate we can even claim it is green.
Tipping tax was a Tony Blair stealth tax also claimed to be green to encourage recycling.
Fly tipping is the result, tax evasion.
Any high tax encourages evasion, smuggling living offshore etc.
I need to tax without upsetting too many voters and even better if I can claim to be green.
Farmers are an easy target, our votes do not count, food can be imported, just like clothes and everything else, non of us wear anything produce in the UK today.
Change is coming, and more by tax than grants, not abad thing if you accept it make the most of the new opportunities.
Black market beef anyone?
I need money to pay for the pandemic so I need tax revenue now. It needs to be easy to collect, not upset too many voters. Stealth tax.
Remove red diesel bingo!
Bonus now Greta and David Atenbourgh have won the climate change debate we can even claim it is green.
Tipping tax was a Tony Blair stealth tax also claimed to be green to encourage recycling.
Fly tipping is the result, tax evasion.
Any high tax encourages evasion, smuggling living offshore etc.
I need to tax without upsetting too many voters and even better if I can claim to be green.
Farmers are an easy target, our votes do not count, food can be imported, just like clothes and everything else, non of us wear anything produce in the UK today.
Change is coming, and more by tax than grants, not abad thing if you accept it make the most of the new opportunities.
Black market beef anyone?
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- British Isles
you are hauling an organic fertiliser for your crops and you charge a spreading fee not a haulage or removal fee
grainboy
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- Bedfordshire
Big repercussions in the Demolition world,
Have just priced a large Demo job, but is on hold for 12 months, due to other reasons,
We calculated an extra £6k of fuel if running on white,
Have just priced a large Demo job, but is on hold for 12 months, due to other reasons,
We calculated an extra £6k of fuel if running on white,
Ploughing might just be confined to competitions. You might have to change your avatar...
If you want to make a fast buck, start selling black market oilseed rape cold presses!
I hire a grain dryer. It is set up to use red. To sum up, using kero is not so simple. 
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Its the great re-set, the new model is for no one to own anything but rent it by the month/week/day, much better cash flow for big business
I hire a grain dryer. It is set up to use red. To sum up, using kero is not so simple.
Swapping to kero is just a matter of changing the nozzle and pressure.
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