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A 3mile walk isn't even going to burn off a pot noodle............ it's what goes in that makes the difference.
Carb-free/Atkins/Keto diets - any advice
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- Northumberland
I could do with losing a few kg; nothing dramatic but 5kg or so would make a lot of difference.
The run up to Christmas isn’t great weightwise; most of us here have birthdays in Nov/Dec so there are lots of sweets etc around as the days shorten. I don’t worry about it much- no harm in having fun.
It gets to New Year and I try to have a bit of a change. Personally I find moderation difficult (eg I couldn’t limit myself to 2 bags of crisps a week- it simply wouldn’t work). I can easily just not eat stuff though, so for now I’m not eating sweets, crisps, biscuits (or other snacks). I’m also trying to avoid refined carbs so I’m avoiding bread etc. I’m not getting too hung up on the ‘No carbs’ thing though, so plenty of fresh fruit, veg, beans etc. Lots of meat too! I find a couple of dry fried eggs fill me up all morning so I don’t want to snack.
Also I stop drinking alcohol for January (kind of a safety test for my all-or-nothing personality type); if I can do without it without having any cravings for a month each year I’m probably not dependent on it so ok to continue!
I’m not getting too hung up on it though, and don’t really think of it as dieting; just trying to cut out the rubbish processed parts of my diet so I’ll be healthier overall.
The run up to Christmas isn’t great weightwise; most of us here have birthdays in Nov/Dec so there are lots of sweets etc around as the days shorten. I don’t worry about it much- no harm in having fun.
It gets to New Year and I try to have a bit of a change. Personally I find moderation difficult (eg I couldn’t limit myself to 2 bags of crisps a week- it simply wouldn’t work). I can easily just not eat stuff though, so for now I’m not eating sweets, crisps, biscuits (or other snacks). I’m also trying to avoid refined carbs so I’m avoiding bread etc. I’m not getting too hung up on the ‘No carbs’ thing though, so plenty of fresh fruit, veg, beans etc. Lots of meat too! I find a couple of dry fried eggs fill me up all morning so I don’t want to snack.
Also I stop drinking alcohol for January (kind of a safety test for my all-or-nothing personality type); if I can do without it without having any cravings for a month each year I’m probably not dependent on it so ok to continue!
I’m not getting too hung up on it though, and don’t really think of it as dieting; just trying to cut out the rubbish processed parts of my diet so I’ll be healthier overall.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I like the simplicity of it, it appeals to my "tidy" mind and I think the two days a week of very few carbs is good for resetting any insulin resistance, so hopefully making sure I don't become type 2 diabetic.
Looking into diet, has made me realise that a lot of the things we knew about what is healthy, is actually either based on no firm science or is a result of vested interests.
I found this a very interesting book
Spoon-fed
<b>tim spector</b> is a professor of genetic epidemiology at king's college london and honorary consultant physician at guy's and st thomas' hospitals. he is a multi-award-winning expert in personalised medicine and the gut microbiome, and the author of five books, including the bestsellers...
www.ryefieldbooks.com
The only thing I have issues with, is his opinions on being veggie and cattle's effect on soil when integrated into the mixed farming system and soil carbon drawdown.
ollie989898
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I like the simplicity of it, it appeals to my "tidy" mind and I think the two days a week of very few carbs is good for resetting any insulin resistance, so hopefully making sure I don't become type 2 diabetic.
Looking into diet, has made me realise that a lot of the things we knew about what is healthy, is actually either based on no firm science or is a result of vested interests.
I found this a very interesting book
Spoon-fed
<b>tim spector</b> is a professor of genetic epidemiology at king's college london and honorary consultant physician at guy's and st thomas' hospitals. he is a multi-award-winning expert in personalised medicine and the gut microbiome, and the author of five books, including the bestsellers...
The only thing I have issues with, is his opinions on being veggie and cattle's effect on soil when integrated into the mixed farming system and soil carbon drawdown.
I agree there does not seem to be a lot of 'certified' information on what constitutes a good diet. A lot of money has been made vilifying certain foods, that is for sure. I don't like the idea of trying to avoid all carbohydrates since it is nearly impossible and mankind has survived on them for many thousands of years. I also feel a ketogenic diet is unhealthy (and would be too expensive for many people).
I think we all need to do our best at avoiding as much processed food as possible. I would include most cereals and even bread in this.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
Go vegetarian. Believe it or not farmers grow it. Eating your way through the quantities you need to eat is more than enough excercise.
ollie989898
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Yes, great, just need to grow a megacolon in anticipation unless you fancy downloading more than once per day.
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
I just put it in as a wind up. However my wife has been vegetarian for three years and she’s incredibly healthy. However she gets through a fair quantity of foliage in a day.
ollie989898
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Of the stout vegetarians/vegans I know I would say, on balance they are incredibly healthy. But they do a lot more than just adapt their diet which may be part of their success. Of course, being limited in this way really does kill their calorie count and makes their existence pretty barebones to say the least. All the usual every-day processed bilge food is out for starters.
marco
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- tipperary, ireland
Eat nothing with an ingredient list, I see some people doing an animal based diet. Which is essentially mimicking what we used to eat as hunter gatherers. Beef, lamb, venison, eggs, milk, cheese, cream and some fruit. People on this diet say they don't feel hungry, they eat till they are full and don't snack. It's something I'm interested in trying. I definitely need to loose a stone.
marco
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- Location
- tipperary, ireland
Oh ya and cutting out seed oils completely out of the diet. These are very high in inflammatory omega 6 fatty acids. Use butter tallow or lard
Oliveau
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- Indre et Loire, France
I tried Atkins some years ago and lost some weight. But the first couple of weeks are incredibly hard as I seemed to be always hungry! But you can fight the hunger pangs with a good wedge of cheese. I prefer now to just control my eating.
A friend of mine lost a lot of weight with with a 'nothing white' diet - Basically you cut out rice, pasta, sugar, potatoes, bread and other bakery products, in other words a low carb diet.
Other tips - use a smaller plate and refuse second helpings. Have a good bacon & egg breakfast but avoid breakfast cereals as they are loaded with sugar. Don't eat after 6.00pm
A friend of mine lost a lot of weight with with a 'nothing white' diet - Basically you cut out rice, pasta, sugar, potatoes, bread and other bakery products, in other words a low carb diet.
Other tips - use a smaller plate and refuse second helpings. Have a good bacon & egg breakfast but avoid breakfast cereals as they are loaded with sugar. Don't eat after 6.00pm
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- Northumberland
I can think of a few overweight, pasty-faced, largely sedentary vegetarians (and also a few fit ones). Being vegetarian by no means means a healthy diet. A healthy diet is one that contains little in the way of processed foods, whatever their origin.
I’d hazard a guess that even an ‘unprocessed’ vegetarian diet would be improved by the occasional piece of fresh meat or oily fish.
I’d hazard a guess that even an ‘unprocessed’ vegetarian diet would be improved by the occasional piece of fresh meat or oily fish.
- Location
- Northumberland
I was thinking of establishing a new diet. It’s called the “TWO AISLES DIET”. It’s a really simple way to eat healthily and perhaps lose some weight.
It’s really very simple- you can only pick foods from the first two supermarket aisles (ignoring anything processed with, say, more than three ingredients).
Veg, fruit, meat, fish, dairy, cheese etc all good.
You may need to foray into other sections of the supermarket for specific items (dried pulses, tinned tomatoes, eggs etc), but most food is collected in the first TWO AISLES.
I bet someone is making money out of that idea already
It’s really very simple- you can only pick foods from the first two supermarket aisles (ignoring anything processed with, say, more than three ingredients).
Veg, fruit, meat, fish, dairy, cheese etc all good.
You may need to foray into other sections of the supermarket for specific items (dried pulses, tinned tomatoes, eggs etc), but most food is collected in the first TWO AISLES.
I bet someone is making money out of that idea already
SilliamWhale
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This is quite a useful book as it has diet plans and its doesn't get too high falutin
I've been to Zoe Harcombe talks in the past and it all makes good sense. I don't really diet as it never works but never seem to put too much weight on. Don't think that its all about going no carb - vegetables have lots of carbs!
Little things like porridge and water for breakfast, instead of eating lots of chocolate just have a square of 80% cocoa chocolate at night (good quality stuff is nice), bacon and eggs are good, green soups. Don't go too extreme or you won't keep it up.
50 press ups a day is no harm either while waiting for the kettle to boil. I'm not giving up bread and pasta as I need to use it for family meals but a little less of it is no harm.
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I've been to Zoe Harcombe talks in the past and it all makes good sense. I don't really diet as it never works but never seem to put too much weight on. Don't think that its all about going no carb - vegetables have lots of carbs!
Little things like porridge and water for breakfast, instead of eating lots of chocolate just have a square of 80% cocoa chocolate at night (good quality stuff is nice), bacon and eggs are good, green soups. Don't go too extreme or you won't keep it up.
50 press ups a day is no harm either while waiting for the kettle to boil. I'm not giving up bread and pasta as I need to use it for family meals but a little less of it is no harm.
SilliamWhale
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I've never really understood what is so bad about oilseeds. I'm not disagreeing but I've never understood the mechanism which makes them negative nutritionally. Have you any easy to read good links?
Don't they say avocado oil is ok?
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
I reckon you’d have to have been a pretty good hunter to have got that amount of meat. It would have been more gathering so lots of roots and berries topped off with a lot of honey. I looked this up and a proper hunter gatherer diet is pretty high in carbohydrates. However chasing after your food will probably be more beneficial to weight loss.
SilliamWhale
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Carboydrates aren't bad. They are essential. But its in the form they come.
Its a bit like comparing fruit juice with whole fruit. The fibre in the fruit is more important than the sugars in the juices!
davidroberts30
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- pembrokeshire
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- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
Same with meat isn’t it. Compare steak with what’s in a bought pie or burger. I just get a bit annoyed with the whole stereotypical weedy vegans/vegetarians v obese meat eater stuff. It’s all quite simple don’t eat more than you need and as stated avoid the processed stuff meat or non meat.
SilliamWhale
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Its often because they make more enlightened food choices in the first place. Being a veggy is a choice and usually if you make choices you tend to make an effort.
But plant based processed food terrifies me. I love a vegan/ veggie cafe now and again though