It's quite some place. I first went there around 2000 and was absolutely gobsmacked at the sheer size of some of the people compared to the fattest people we'd had in the UK at that point. We were just playing at the job. They've obv got bigger since then...
Carb-free/Atkins/Keto diets - any advice
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mind you i have got a penchant for Christmas cake atm, Mrs always makes a cracker,
will last about another week ir. at about a slice a day .
will last about another week ir. at about a slice a day .Oliveau
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Ah yes, but it contains lots of fruit which therefore makes it a health food. That's my excuse anyway.........mind you i have got a penchant for Christmas cake atm, Mrs always makes a cracker,
I was just closing some tabs down and thought this would interest those scared of fats.
Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings
Associations of fats and carbohydrate intake with cardiovascular disease and mortality in 18 countries from five continents (PURE): a prospective cohort study
High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease...
www.thelancet.com
Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings
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@Ffermer Bach will find you a video about omega 6 in seed oils. I don't know where he posted it before
There are loads of videos on this on Youtube, I posted a good one earlier in the thread. Here's the video that originally got me interested in all of this. 2 hours though, so prob too long for most. But the ground that's covered is in a lot of other videos.
Old ish thread I know, but not in the scheme of things. I tried atkins diet, lost 3 stone but soon put a fair bit back on, it took quite a bit of effort to keep with and I got bored of food, went down a more iron age approach which worked better. I don't ever eat breakfast, haven't for 20 years and it's probably not that good a way to eat. But, I now have a pint of milk before heading out, never hungry for a snack, if I have an early lunch to push on its normally a chunk of cheese and a bit of cucumber, don't eat crap, eat far too late for supper and seem to have a a relatively good bmi which I don't need to watch... need to consume fat to burn fat
ollie989898
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BMI is old hat and should not be relied upon.
The main issue with carbs and in particular simple carbs is that you can soon eat a lot of them in no time at all and still feel hungry. Case in point, today a colleague had a bag of those cookies from the bakery. We worked out the total calorie content of them was 1850 calories. That's enough energy for a person my size to run 18 miles.
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I got six stone off by the end of June, from starting in October last year (the first stone or so I lost before I went on the meat diet).
So far I've kept it off. I'm still eating a lot of meat but not a strict diet as such, and every now and then I'll have a week or ten days without sugars and carbs at all to bring my weight down if it starts going up.
Eventually I'd like to get another stone off, to get me back to the weight I was at in my early 20's, but that's a lot of bulk I've lost very quickly, and I Think my body needs the winter to adjust to where I've got to now. I know I lost muscle mass on my upper body, shoulders especially, which is slowly building back.
I certainly feel better for it. Even at my heaviest I would still do a 5km Parkrun on a Saturday morning, so I wasn't some blobby mess, but I can do so much more now.
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There's a lot of good tales re the carnivore diet. In one below, woman was 770lbs (55 stone!) to start with. Lost half of that in a matter of months
Carnivore diet tends to suppress appetite so no problem skipping meals - something high carb/processed foods would never let you do!
I'm not trying to lose weight but doing a couple of 16hr fasts per week - just skipping breakfast i.e.
for other health benefits. Originally thought I'd have to sit around doing nothing as I would have no energy, not safe to drive etc. But found the opposite, keeping active and occupied takes your mind off the empty stomach.
Carnivore diet tends to suppress appetite so no problem skipping meals - something high carb/processed foods would never let you do!
I'm not trying to lose weight but doing a couple of 16hr fasts per week - just skipping breakfast i.e.
for other health benefits. Originally thought I'd have to sit around doing nothing as I would have no energy, not safe to drive etc. But found the opposite, keeping active and occupied takes your mind off the empty stomach.
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ollie989898
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I'm unusual in that I can skip breakfast, drink a cup of tea and get to lunch time without feeling hungry. You just have to learn to ignore your gut.
Whats your diet like right now?
I lost weight by missing carbs from the evening meal and giving up beer.
Whatever you do...make sure its something you can maintain. Diets dont work over the long term.,im pretty sure thats well accepted!
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little_p
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For those that reduced their carbs / sugar intake, I'm wondering what you packed into your lunch / bait box?
Currently my lunch box consists of bread sandwiches, a packet of crisps and a little of chocolate. I need to reduce my carb / sugar intake but are struggling to think of a 'workman' alternative.
Currently my lunch box consists of bread sandwiches, a packet of crisps and a little of chocolate. I need to reduce my carb / sugar intake but are struggling to think of a 'workman' alternative.
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If you go full carnivorous diet (or whatever you want to call it) you only need to eat once a day, and can easily go longer if you want.
Having said that, I get through a lot of Scotch eggs!
(I'm thinking of getting some biltong too, but I was never a great fan of it, even when I lived in Southern Africa where it's a standard snack).
davidroberts30
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Tub of cocktail sausages
Get rid of everything you eat now
It’s probably more normal than folk think, if I had a bowl of wreak or a slice of toast I’d be way hungrier come lunch time than if I’d just had a cup of tea.
Scrambled eggs is best for me starting the day, tend to stop for lunch more out of habit than need, could probably do scrambled eggs for breakfast and then a good dinner come 6pm fine.
I reckon the absolute best plan for long term healthy eating would be to try and consume whole foods only, as in single ingredient stuff, potato, oats, rice, meat, eggs, veg, dairy etc
avoid wheat, veg oils and refined sugar (not as simple as it sounds).
The nations health would be transformed if we stuck to that I think.
davidroberts30
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Take the oats and rice off the list and your spot on
I wouldn’t get too carried away with vilifying oats and rice, although I know where you’re coming from, I generally avoid them. As long as they’ve not been tampered with they’re whole foods and we can cope with them just fine. It's the processing where it all starts to go wrong. Potatoes are a good example of this. Boil them in a pan and add a knob of butter and they’re hugely satiating without spiking your blood glucose/insulin. Send them to McD’s for ultra processing and they’re one of the worst things you can put in your mouth.
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err, apart from water, I dont find the need to pack any food to take with me for the day
i think a LOT of our eating, especially if driving / operating machinery, is out of boredom or something to do, rather than an actual physical requirement
Crisps need to go in the bin straight away, the bread too. Choc obvs although you could switch to say a 70% dark choc, dark choc is protective of heart health. I find higher than 70% not very pleasant but a couple of squares of 70 should ease you into the job. Cheese, tasty and satisfying. Whatever’s in your sarnie just put it in a tupperware and have more of it. Just cutting out bread alone will help if you do nothing else. I honestly don’t know why people eat bread, it’s tasteless.
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