80x50 or 80x90 baler.

Dolomite

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Yorkshire
very limited/specialist market for 80x50 bales dealing with stables. Much higher handling costs. 80x50's usually need wrapping in pairs if doing haylage?
Yes been thinking of and asking about the pit falls of the smaller size. But aiming for horsey, small farmers, hill farmers with small buildings etc. Plenty of larger balers in our area so if I'm wanting some for selling with our hay and haylage crops. I need something easy to move by hand or push around. Have you had anything to do with 80x90's?
 
Yes been thinking of and asking about the pit falls of the smaller size. But aiming for horsey, small farmers, hill farmers with small buildings etc. Plenty of larger balers in our area so if I'm wanting some for selling with our hay and haylage crops. I need something easy to move by hand or push around. Have you had anything to do with 80x90's?
Done bit with them (used to run 3 of them contracting for a few years😉), Massey 185’s - and a lot of wrapping them with Michale 998’s. If that is your target market then the smaller bale has appeal. Added costs in handling and wrapping. Mchale 998 will wrap two together, not sure about others - lot of water under the bridge since I last did any.
 

Dolomite

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Yorkshire
Done bit with them (used to run 3 of them contracting for a few years😉), Massey 185’s - and a lot of wrapping them with Michale 998’s. If that is your target market then the smaller bale has appeal. Added costs in handling and wrapping. Mchale 998 will wrap two together, not sure about others - lot of water under the bridge since I last did any.
Great thank you. Would you say a short 80x90 bale is as easy to move if its hay or straw as a 80x50? By hand of course. All about trying to increase the value of what we sell and how we sell it. Also not sure if the 80x59 bales we could sell and use for a burners.
 

theboytheboy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Portsmouth
Yes that's been on our minds too. Which gives us flexibility on customers and uses for income streams from the baler we may buy. Do they sell well and easy to handle?
We do bales at just under 8 foot (fit on transit easier)

4 foot square and 3.5 foot round. All for horses.

Rounds definitely easier to shove around but 4 foots are manageable if your young/fit.

To be honest the 4 foots were popular but most have moved to 8 foots as its cheaper for them. We tip off with a tipper truck and then they cut the strings and move the sections.

We thought we would lose our custom when we stopped doing little bales but most accepted the change and once it was pointed out its cheaper to have one big 8 foot than two 4 foot most moved to 8 foot.

There simply isn't enough money in little bales to ruin our bodies any more/cover physio bills and put up with the stress of trying to beat the weather. It was so easy clearing a field when we stopped with the flat 8!
 

FG.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Wiltshire
Did you get a baler?.
I've run an 80x90 MF185 for 12 yrs.
7' hay and 3-5' haylage.
This season I bought an MF185 80x70, which Is where I should of been years ago.
A little slower to bale with, but much better to hump about and better for pricing.
I did think about the 80x50 size, but your slower to bale again.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Did you get a baler?.
I've run an 80x90 MF185 for 12 yrs.
7' hay and 3-5' haylage.
This season I bought an MF185 80x70, which Is where I should of been years ago.
A little slower to bale with, but much better to hump about and better for pricing.
I did think about the 80x50 size, but your slower to bale again.
How does mf185 have two sizes
 

FG.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Wiltshire
Standard 185 is 80x90.
But 'Big Bale South' modified a run of balers and cut the chamber and plunger down to 80x70, as MF/Hesston didn't do that size.
Then Agco(mf) started to build an 80x70 and stopped production again 🙄
 

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