Alcohol

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I don't believe drinking coffee is going to harm you. The FDA seem to believe 400mg of caffeine is about the healthy maximum and to get to that is something daft like consuming 6 cans of red bull in a day or 4 expressos. Who the heck drinks that in a day?
Best way to go cold turkey is away in tractor all day ploughing during winter. Pack lunch in morning and that's all you can eat for 12 hours. No shops near farm.

In the summer when under pressure go to work with 2 litres of fizzy drink and family packs of Haribo.🤦
 
Best way to go cold turkey is away in tractor all day ploughing during winter. Pack lunch in morning and that's all you can eat for 12 hours. No shops near farm.

In the summer when under pressure go to work with 2 litres of fizzy drink and family packs of Haribo.🤦

Current recommendations are for adults to consume no more than 30g of sugar per day. That means you could drink half of a 500ml bottle of coke and you've hit the daily limit.
 
I'm not sure I'd agree with your post in respect of caffeine.

Caffeine can give a short term bump in blood pressure, certainly around 15mmHg wouldn't be out of the ball park, but that is far less than you would expect to see during sustained strenuous exercise.

Drinking a great deal of tea of coffee supposedly can cause digestive upset and problems with malabsorption of some nutrients, but that is due to the tannins in it and you'd have to be consuming a heck of a lot of it I think.
From what I've gathered it's not the short term spike that's the problem, it's more to do with it reducing the uptake of Mg that caffeine causes
People who are low in Mg commonly suffer with higher blood pressure because artery walls cannot relax without a it, regular caffeine intake disrups this.
 

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
There’s a lot to be said for giving up something for a period of time that you think you need, like sugar, caffeine or alcohol. And if you can’t kick the habit then it shows how weak your mind is, you can’t even get through a few days without it?
Giving it up and succeeding for a period of time shows you have some amount of control of your mind, coming up with the usual excuses that I work hard and deserve it is your weak mind letting you down
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
There’s a lot to be said for giving up something for a period of time that you think you need, like sugar, caffeine or alcohol. And if you can’t kick the habit then it shows how weak your mind is, you can’t even get through a few days without it?
Giving it up and succeeding for a period of time shows you have some amount of control of your mind, coming up with the usual excuses that I work hard and deserve it is your weak mind letting you down
I've given up a few things, that are supposedly detrimental to your health and didn't feel any better. So continued as before.

Bread is one, also tried drinking 2l of water a day, just ended up going to the toilet all day.

What's the goal with giving up things that are bad for us? A better standard of death,?

This time last week a guy dropped down dead next to me on street. Guessing a heart attack. No warning, we were running for a train after a football match. Was a stranger, didn't realise he was dead till saw news next day.

There's a very thin line between life and death. Can be over in a instant.

Was a good way to go for the poor chap.
 

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
I've given up a few things, that are supposedly detrimental to your health and didn't feel any better. So continued as before.

Bread is one, also tried drinking 2l of water a day, just ended up going to the toilet all day.

What's the goal with giving up things that are bad for us? A better standard of death,?

This time last week a guy dropped down dead next to me on street. Guessing a heart attack. No warning, we were running for a train after a football match. Was a stranger, didn't realise he was dead till saw news next day.

There's a very thin line between life and death. Can be over in a instant.

Was a good way to go for the poor chap.
It’s more the mentality of been able to give something up for your own mental strength, which an addict and most people don’t have, or not even willing to try!
 
I've given up a few things, that are supposedly detrimental to your health and didn't feel any better. So continued as before.

Bread is one, also tried drinking 2l of water a day, just ended up going to the toilet all day.

What's the goal with giving up things that are bad for us? A better standard of death,?

This time last week a guy dropped down dead next to me on street. Guessing a heart attack. No warning, we were running for a train after a football match. Was a stranger, didn't realise he was dead till saw news next day.

There's a very thin line between life and death. Can be over in a instant.

Was a good way to go for the poor chap.

It's not the thought of dying that should concern anyone, it's the 'other stuff' you could go through instead.

I've seen enough people with barely functional livers or lungs to put me off ever trying smoking or ever drinking a much as a sip again.
 

Sam Partridge

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South Devon
I've given up a few things, that are supposedly detrimental to your health and didn't feel any better. So continued as before.

Bread is one, also tried drinking 2l of water a day, just ended up going to the toilet all day.

What's the goal with giving up things that are bad for us? A better standard of death,?

This time last week a guy dropped down dead next to me on street. Guessing a heart attack. No warning, we were running for a train after a football match. Was a stranger, didn't realise he was dead till saw news next day.

There's a very thin line between life and death. Can be over in a instant.

Was a good way to go for the poor chap.
Man I'm the same with water, definitely do not drink enough and when I do I feel like I'm wasting half the day going to the toilet! Thing is with something basic like that, (or cutting down on sweets, cakes etc), you'll likely not feel that much different but it may have a massive effect on your long term health. Something which we can never know whether we should have done more about it or not. The answer is moderation, if you can cut some of these things out great, but if not don't beat yourself up about it. Could have a heart attack any day running for the train. (my vice is biscuits and general sweet treats)
 

Sam Partridge

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South Devon
He’s been a risk taker all his life, latterly he owned a lot of property in Halifax and got badly burnt when it all collapsed, he blames covid but it all fell apart in 2018. He consoled himself with a £20k trip to the Caribbean. His step daughter worked out a rescue plan where he’d walk away totally debt free and offered him a £45k job to walk into. His response was he wouldn’t get out of bed for that.

I look at where he is now and really struggle to sympathise because of the 16yrs I’ve known him, I’ve just seen excess, arrogance and waste.
I know of a guy who I would describe as an alcoholic who seems to have the same outlook on working life. Had a fairly decent job and spent way beyond means and after he lost the job would think he was above all menial work. Drinks virtually every day and all roads lead to the pub but not to blackout drunk. All available pennies (of which he has very few) go on pints. And a very slow slide to rock bottom. Feels like the world owes him, unable to consider changing, calls his children to ask for £2.50 to go towards a "coffee"
 

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Man I'm the same with water, definitely do not drink enough and when I do I feel like I'm wasting half the day going to the toilet! Thing is with something basic like that, (or cutting down on sweets, cakes etc), you'll likely not feel that much different but it may have a massive effect on your long term health. Something which we can never know whether we should have done more about it or not. The answer is moderation, if you can cut some of these things out great, but if not don't beat yourself up about it. Could have a heart attack any day running for the train. (my vice is biscuits and general sweet treats)
I drink lots and lots of water while working but if I drink a lot of tea a lunch time then you do need the toilet a lot as caffeine is a diuretic. Less caffeine helps and keeps you hydrated
I broke my leg a few months ago and had to heal up fast, sleep became the most important part to recover fast so I cut out caffeine for 6 weeks as caffeine stays in your system for up to 12 hours
 
When I was having one of my attempts to stop smoking the lad that was working for me at the time said ‘I don’t know why you are bothering it will only extend the sh!t years of your life anyway’ as he fired another one up.
I was 15 years nearer to those ‘sh!t years’ than he was
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
It's not the thought of dying that should concern anyone, it's the 'other stuff' you could go through instead.

I've seen enough people with barely functional livers or lungs to put me off ever trying smoking or ever drinking a much as a sip again.
Know a chap just finished up work in his early sixties. Retired due to ill health.

Pretty obese, drink habit, diabetic, got away with it for years then these last 2-3years it all came home to roost. Covid didn’t help, had pneumonia for 3 weeks in 2020 before GP finally agreed to see him, then straight to casualty, wrecked his lungs. Ambulances at house couple times a month, became a liability, clumsy, lost confidence which led to more bumps and bad decisions.

Now sits home, most days on oxygen, barely able to walk further than the car. Very sad way to finish up.
 
Know a chap just finished up work in his early sixties. Retired due to ill health.

Pretty obese, drink habit, diabetic, got away with it for years then these last 2-3years it all came home to roost. Covid didn’t help, had pneumonia for 3 weeks in 2020 before GP finally agreed to see him, then straight to casualty, wrecked his lungs. Ambulances at house couple times a month, became a liability, clumsy, lost confidence which led to more bumps and bad decisions.

Now sits home, most days on oxygen, barely able to walk further than the car. Very sad way to finish up.
I think everyone’s health is a lottery the only thing is what you do alters your odds either in your favour or against your favour
 

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Know a chap just finished up work in his early sixties. Retired due to ill health.

Pretty obese, drink habit, diabetic, got away with it for years then these last 2-3years it all came home to roost. Covid didn’t help, had pneumonia for 3 weeks in 2020 before GP finally agreed to see him, then straight to casualty, wrecked his lungs. Ambulances at house couple times a month, became a liability, clumsy, lost confidence which led to more bumps and bad decisions.

Now sits home, most days on oxygen, barely able to walk further than the car. Very sad way to finish up.
A sedentary lifestyle is the fastest way to ill health
If you seek comfort constantly your body will betray you
 
After starting to smoke on and off from my early teens I wouldn’t describe myself as a full time smoker most of the time but I certainly increased the habit in times of loosing close family and friends, bse and f and m recessions you name it.
One thing that I have realised you will only quit when you want to. No matter how many times you say you will makes no odds you need to mean it. Packed in years ago never even think about it now.
 
I had a multiple heart by-pass January 2000 . Just before I left MRI the surgeon who did the op called me into his office . "a word before you go -- I've given you 15 years of quality life again now , and I'm now going to give you a bit of advice . I'm not worried about red meat , dairy , sugar, and suchlike things except to say moderation in all things , but what I am going to say , if you smoke -- STOP -- if you don't it'll kill you . I'd smoked from being in the army - woodbines , and "graduated " on to 20 packs of Players . doing about 50 or 60 a day . "Do you smoke ?" "I don't now!" I gave it up there and then . OH , mother , father , and uncle too . None of us ever smoked again . What I'm really saying is that you need to have a good reason to quit any addiction , and also , most importantly , you have to actually want to quit , as "livestock " above says !
 

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