Condescending Supermarket
- Thread starter Clive
- Start date
Sure. I have no problem with a supermarket paying me some cash if it suits their narrative.
To use dairy as an example:
Lets say your carbon stock equates to 10 carbon credits per acre.
Arla want you to hand over 7 credits/acre as a condition of taking your milk.
ABP want you to hand over 2 credits/acre as a condition of taking your culls.
Buitelaar want you to hand over 2 credits/acre as a condition of taking your calves.
What you going to do ? Buy a credit off a direct driller ?
That, in essence is what GFC is going to do to you. And as of today there is nobody, no farmer body, opposing this.
Well if you haven’t got it they can’t have it.
I’m in that position as landlord has retained them in tenancy agreement.
will red tractor refuse my money if I don’t have any credits to give away???
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- Location
- DD9.
Still not answered my email from October about data sharing.
- Location
- Cirencester
No but you'll struggle to sell your produce, if you have none to give away then I assume you'll have to buy them in. Meanwhile imports will carry on flying in. It seems a fairly predictable set up.
I'm guessing non assured markets will pretty much dry up completely.
Ah but th point I’m making is if we all said sorry not got any carbon credits to give away what happens then?
Yes data sharing is something that requires a definitive answer.
I would like to opt out
- Location
- East Sussex
You’ll have to buy them from some tree planter in wales.
you can bet imports will come with many fictional carbon credits that have been magicked out of thin air.
- Location
- Cirencester
If farmers stood together and did as you said then yes but I cannot see it as much as I'd love to.
But it then begs the question "what if you're unassured" and if you're unassured and entered the whole place into CS?? I would then have excess credits one would think.
even if BA and Shell want to pay you more ? ................. interesting point of view !
they will still buy .......... because your produces will be just like the imports they buy that have n one either
- Location
- Cirencester
Yes but they’ll give you a “knock” just like unassured grain here currently yet imports…..
It beggars belief that a Morrisons employee will come out and say their customers are demanding action on green issues, I don't doubt they are getting a lot of correspondence on this, but it will be from the people who look down their noses at Morrisons and shop at Waitrose/M&S. Morrions customers only care about the price.
Remember the time when Tesco were under great pressure to be a nicer more caring organisation from left leaning "caring" types, the Chief executive who listened to them is long gone, he made the mistake of thinking that if he changed Tesco the complainers would shop there, of course they wouldn't they despised Tesco and all its customers.
Remember the time when Tesco were under great pressure to be a nicer more caring organisation from left leaning "caring" types, the Chief executive who listened to them is long gone, he made the mistake of thinking that if he changed Tesco the complainers would shop there, of course they wouldn't they despised Tesco and all its customers.
- Location
- North Somerset.
GFC. What is the going rate per hectare permanent pasture?
Not being FA and happy to continue selling through livestock markets what kind of figure should I have in mind when a shiny shoes conman comes calling?
Not being FA and happy to continue selling through livestock markets what kind of figure should I have in mind when a shiny shoes conman comes calling?
- Location
- Cheltenham
Clive you’re leaning against an open door here. I agree with you but just try taking on these monsters!! You think the NFU are a tough gig, try these guys!
- Location
- Cheltenham
There could always be a bit of vertical integration whereby farmers open up in competition with nationwide “farmers supermarket”?
2. It has to be at the market rate.
I don't trade with either BA or Shell. I do rely on supermarkets to sell my produce. What are BA and Shell paying?
- Location
- East Yorkshire
i think the supermarkets want it one a buy one get 10 free kinda deal