Condescending Supermarket

thorpe

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It beggars belief that a Morrisons employee will come out and say their customers are demanding action on green issues, I don't doubt they are getting a lot of correspondence on this, but it will be from the people who look down their noses at Morrisons and shop at Waitrose/M&S. Morrions customers only care about the price.

Remember the time when Tesco were under great pressure to be a nicer more caring organisation from left leaning "caring" types, the Chief executive who listened to them is long gone, he made the mistake of thinking that if he changed Tesco the complainers would shop there, of course they wouldn't they despised Tesco and all its customers.
if morrison's custoimer's only cared about price they would go to aldi or lidel!
 

slackjawedyokel

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
theyll tell you it doesn't have a value. Wouldn't want a livestock man making skiing more expensive.......
Here’s the thing. If we all go along with it and join GFC, with BRC operating RT with its foot, then BRC can set the number of carbon credits and biodiversity net gain credits we have to supply with our produce in order to access the market.

Even if they are forced to ‘pay’ for them, BRC can ensure they are produced in sufficient quantity to make their value nominal.

If RT told us all to grow a field of broccoli, it would have next to no value. 🥦
 

slackjawedyokel

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
We have a doctor living next door, he was asking how things were going and we got on about our red tractor inspection.
He asked WHAT’S Red Tractor ???
He’s 50 and a GP and never heard of it. Did have to bite my tongue a bit.
I asked people’s opinions about RT on a Mercedes car forum a couple of years ago (average user is intelligent, middle aged and affluent). Here are a few responses:

“David I have no real knowledge of Red Tractor, it sounds to me like something off a kids program.”

“in a crowded space and for me it doesn’t stand out as defining something I want enough to pay a premium for over other offerings.”

“I really think that most of these RT style of accreditations just add costs to your business and consequently you are not playing on a level playing field against imports.”

“No. We as a family dont buy based on Red Tractor packaging”

“We don’t buy based on Red Tractor. Though when I see it, I thought it was actually trying to ‘upsell’ an inferior product by trying to say it had matched standard that I know nothing about.
Perhaps in a similar way to Tesco’s XYZ Farm stuff, that is just a fictional farm.”
 

Charles.

Member
Arable Farmer
Hate to say it but i think you are wrong about the GFC being dead ( are we allowed to say that word or will Minette kick off like on X the other day )

RT are backed into a corner, farmers generally that know about it are very angry and say they will not do it yet the supermarkets want it introduced!

If RT do not introduce it they run the real risk of the supermarkets each doing their own RT/GFC scheme ( ie Tesco have their own/ Aldi their own and so on ) and then RT dying a death anyway!

And if they do introduce it and force people to do the GFC to be assured then RT run the real risk of farmers in large numbers refusing to carry on being assured and it will die a death anyway!
This is why we must have the legal right to sell on the free market Gatekeeper lab tested produce to UFAS mills without any discount to imported Gatekeeper lab tested produce. I'm convinced no scheme will give sufficient premium to all or any farmers. We must have choice to join a scheme. The choice not to join a supermarkets own schemes which involves mixing non assured produce with assured produce or doesn't give sufficient premium. The GFC is a lie anyway and the elites are hoping we accept it. Coercion due to the illegal activity of AIC is the only reason majority of farmers are still in RT assurance scheme.
 
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Cowcorn

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Mixed Farmer
To use dairy as an example:

Lets say your carbon stock equates to 10 carbon credits per acre.
Arla want you to hand over 7 credits/acre as a condition of taking your milk.
ABP want you to hand over 2 credits/acre as a condition of taking your culls.
Buitelaar want you to hand over 2 credits/acre as a condition of taking your calves.
What you going to do ? Buy a credit off a direct driller ?

That, in essence is what GFC is going to do to you. And as of today there is nobody, no farmer body, opposing this.
Whoah there hoss the BFU are on the job the only real farmer rep with real street credibility .
The Dutch got fed up and hit the streets ...the Germans are now in action ...
The French are always primed to kick off ...
The question is now at is the Great British lion finally stirring and going to take the arse off this outrageous scam that the BRC are attempting to foist on uk farmers ??
I look forward to faceache coverage of the Chief ...@clive reversing a fendt and trailer full of muck up to the supermarkets front door ....
Come on now you know you want to ...cant have Fritz and Pierre getting all the action ;)
 

Charles.

Member
Arable Farmer
If you read the AIC worthless drivel and dross frequently asked questions https://www.agindustries.org.uk/resource/traded-crop-materials-uk-import-standards-explained.html. Gatekeeper imported produce is a lower standard to UK standards produce because it's not farm assured, it uses pesticides that have been banned under UK law etc.

AIC claims imported produce is the same standard as UK produce, clearly this is misinformation or more likely disinformation given AIC illegal activity. The UK producer is operating in an unfair economic environment when the UK producer should be on a level playing field in the free market with imported produce . Then presumably it's illegal activity to mix in imported non farm assured produce with UK farm assured produce and sell it under the RT label as farm assured.

The AIC, RT, BRC will lose their income stream from their members and lucrative backhanders from elsewhere once the farmer legally has the right to sell on the free market on a level playing field with imported produce without being in any scheme.
 
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