2wheels
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- Location
- aberdeenshire
A guy I know also uses a .308 for the same reason.
Fac Variation and Which large calibre rifle?
- Thread starter Phil P
- Start date
When applying for whichever calibre you want you need to remember that sometimes the police will tell you that it is a privilege to own a firearm. This is not so; it is your right. If you look at the rules on applying for a firearm you will see that it says your application WILL be granted unless there can be demonstrated that you are not a fit person to own one.
With regard to calibres for deer there are many that will do the job but there are fashions in calbres just as there are in clothes. You may be tempted by the strongly promoted "new" calibres but remember that the 270 Winchester was introduced in 1925 and the .308 Win in 1952. You will find ammunition for them in virtually every gun shop and they are easy to reload for if you wish to do that.
I agree that 1000 yard shooting may require more specialised gear to make you competitive.
With regard to calibres for deer there are many that will do the job but there are fashions in calbres just as there are in clothes. You may be tempted by the strongly promoted "new" calibres but remember that the 270 Winchester was introduced in 1925 and the .308 Win in 1952. You will find ammunition for them in virtually every gun shop and they are easy to reload for if you wish to do that.
I agree that 1000 yard shooting may require more specialised gear to make you competitive.
- Location
- Haute Vienne, France
The aristocratic previous owner of my farm in France spent many years as a missionary doctor in central Africa, she started to become quite deluded in later life and seemed to think I was her farm manager. When in her 80s they finally carted her off to a care home we discovered that she had been sleeping with a loaded .308 winchester carbine which she had apparently kept since her "experience" in the "Belgian" Congo. Later when clearing the house the removal firm discovered under the sofa in the living room a semi auto shotgun loaded with solid slugs. I am not quite sure what her experience was but it had clearly left an impression!
- Location
- East Sussex
Whilst this may be true they also need to be satisfied you have good reason.
needing a qualification such as dsc1 is a bit much and not something that is in the guidance. Fine if you want to do it and then it might make application easier but we shouldn't really be allowing conditions like that to become the norm. A conversation with basc might be helpful.
- Location
- North West
I think you maybe getting mixed up with shotgun and fac licenses. Shotgun it’s pretty much a right to own one the police have to prove why you don’t need one however fac you have to prove definite need to own one and also why you need that specific calibre and unless you’re on an open ticket you are restricted to where you can use it.
- Location
- South West
Shotguns are under the ‘shall not’ rule you mention, and yes are given out to those who apply like hot cakes. Rifles however, especially these bigger ones, are treated like a whole different thing. My force won’t even think about it unless you’ve done both deer stalking courses and have had a FAC for atleast one term with smaller loads.
Scholsey
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- Location
- Herefordshire
- Location
- South West
I think unless they found a belt fed machine gun she would of been drastically under armed which ever way you look at it
I know what most people think is the case but the written rules tell a different story. If I was being unkind I would suggest the police "interpret" the rules to their liking knowing that it would probably be too expensive for the average person to challenge them. I hasten to add it has never been a problem for me.
Scholsey
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- Location
- Herefordshire
I’d rather live in a country with licensing laws that mean a few hundred people who should have a firearm but can’t get one than a country with one person who shouldn’t have one but does!
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
No, it's descended from a .30 T/C
Mickeydredd
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It depends on what species of deer you have access to.
I use a 25-06 which has been a great calibre for my mainly Roe stalking, however I currently shoot half a dozen Reds per year as well and would prefer a little more oomph as I will often not get an exit with the 25-06.
A friend uses a 270 for stalking and thats a calibre I'd probably recommend.
I use a 25-06 which has been a great calibre for my mainly Roe stalking, however I currently shoot half a dozen Reds per year as well and would prefer a little more oomph as I will often not get an exit with the 25-06.
A friend uses a 270 for stalking and thats a calibre I'd probably recommend.
Interesting read.
en.m.wikipedia.org
.30 Thompson Center - Wikipedia
- Location
- South West
Sounds abit like those folk over the pond! Where they are still quoting a piece of paper written some 250 years ago giving them the right to bear arms. Yet wonder why there’s so many murders… but they need the guns to defend them self from the murderers… like educating pork with it sometimes
- Location
- North West
I think you’ll find there’s been a few changes over the past couple of years.
Taken from the gov application website -
“You must also “prove” to the chief officer of police that you’re allowed to have a firearms certificate and pose no danger to public safety or to the peace.”
This means when you now apply for a fac you have to “prove” you need a section 1 firearm. This could be club membership or for a written permission for vermin control but they will now check all your permissions before granting a new fac.
- Location
- South West
Relative of mine is Rhodesian, god forbid calling him Zimbabwean! He said they used to tip the shot out of the first cartridge in the pump actions and replace it with rock salt. That way you could aim the ‘warning shot’ at them and pepper em up first before giving them the rest of the cartridges that were 00 buckshot.
- Location
- Haute Vienne, France
She was a proper eccentric living on her own with numerous dogs. When she went into care no relatives showed any interest in her so a "court representative" was given control and the house was cleared and sold. All her best stuff including some nice antiques was taken away by a dealer who was on first name terms with the representative. It was all a bit dodgy if you ask me;
In her bedroom she kept a trepanned skull that she bought back from Africa, she left a note asking that it receive a burial but before anyone could do anything the dealer had popped it into his van and left with it.
One of her dogs was the nastiest poodle I ever met and bit everyone including me several times. No one could get in the house when it was there and I was asked if I could do something about it after it bit the doctor and a nurse. I couldn't even get close enough to shoot it so one of my favourite stalks was taking out that little sod with a .22 while it was running around the garden
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