£40,000 for new Defender!?

[hally]

Not that there has been a precedent for the last 25 years, has there?

Surely design and engineering will provide a different outcome though?

 

[Cowabunga]

Surely design and engineering will provide a different outcome though?

You asked...

I think it looks good but wondering what it will be like towing a moving 3500kg load with such a short wheelbase and springs. No doubt somebody on here will get one and hopefully fill us in.

Well there has been the Defender 90 available since 1984 with a 94" wheelbase and coil springs and I've heard of few complaints about its towing ability. Personally I prefer a longer wheelbase like the new 110, especially since this now has a far shorter distance between the rear axle and the tow ball than my old one had and even my current Ranger has. A short overhang is a great feature only bettered by a gooseneck with the tow ball set in the tray between the axles.

 

[hally]

You asked...


Well there has been the Defender 90 available since 1984 with a 94" wheelbase and coil springs and I've heard of few complaints about its towing ability. Personally I prefer a longer wheelbase like the new 110, especially since this now has a far shorter distance between the rear axle and the tow ball than my old one had and even my current Ranger has. A short overhang is a great feature only bettered by a gooseneck with the tow ball set in the tray between the axles.

I asked because the old defender 90 has a lot poorer reputation around here for towing safely as compared to the modern breed of doublecabs, most find them jittery under heavy load.

 

[Roger Perry]

You asked...


Well there has been the Defender 90 available since 1984 with a 94" wheelbase and coil springs and I've heard of few complaints about its towing ability. Personally I prefer a longer wheelbase like the new 110, especially since this now has a far shorter distance between the rear axle and the tow ball than my old one had and even my current Ranger has. A short overhang is a great feature only bettered by a gooseneck with the tow ball set in the tray between the axles.

Is there a particular reason why goosneck trailers are not in general use in UK

 

[Cowabunga]

Is there a particular reason why goosneck trailers are not in general use in UK

The 3.5 ton maximum trailer weights on all such vehicles perhaps? Plus the cost of course.

 

[Dave.p]

Is there a particular reason why goosneck trailers are not in general use in UK

Because its then classed as an Artic and will need HGV licence

 

[JP1]

I generally stick to 40/45 when towing and generally no faster than 60 amy other times.guess that’s a sign of getting old
nick...

No it's just road sense and also sensitive to the vehicle

The number of tw@ts that have to floor them and overtake everything around her is just stupid

 

[CopperBeech]

Surely the new defender has just replaced the white Range Rover as the must have vehicle for bell ends

 

[Roger Perry]

Because its then classed as an Artic and will need HGV licence

How can that be, makes no sense, just moving the hitch point from behind the rear axel to a point just forward of it.

 

[Drillman]

You asked...


Well there has been the Defender 90 available since 1984 with a 94" wheelbase and coil springs and I've heard of few complaints about its towing ability. Personally I prefer a longer wheelbase like the new 110, especially since this now has a far shorter distance between the rear axle and the tow ball than my old one had and even my current Ranger has. A short overhang is a great feature only bettered by a gooseneck with the tow ball set in the tray between the axles.

92.9 inch actually

 

[beefandsleep]

Saw my first one yesterday, I almost threw up.

 

[The Seeker]

they are hard to lust after, they are more like a g wagon than anything els atm, lets face it they were never aimed at agriculture. Perhaps a dip in the worlds economy might make them sharpen the pencil, id also imagine service costs are in line with RR a discovery 3 or 4 can do its job without the price tag

 

[Dave.p]

How can that be, makes no sense, just moving the hitch point from behind the rear axel to a point just forward of it.

We all know that, there are a few horse boxes and caravans tow with 5th wheel coupling, but to drive with a trailer license it has to be towed from the back.
our braking systems are not sensible either, electric brakes such as are in use in Australia are not legal either.
for trailers over 3.5 tons GVW 3 line air brakes are compulsory.

 

[Roger Perry]

We all know that, there are a few horse boxes and caravans tow with 5th wheel coupling, but to drive with a trailer license it has to be towed from the back.
our braking systems are not sensible either, electric brakes such as are in use in Australia are not legal either.
for trailers over 3.5 tons GVW 3 line air brakes are compulsory.

Electric brakes here too.

 

[Tarw Coch]

I think some of the trailer manufacturers would need to up their game on wiring if we were ever to make a move to electric brakes