2015 cover crops

[Baling Hay]

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Drilling into green cover this pm. I haven't had the growth that some of the others here have which is a bit disappointing but expect it will be good enough!

Seems so wrong to me drilling into that nice green cover without it being grazed!

 

[BSH]

There is that!

 

[JNG]

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Drilling into green cover this pm. I haven't had the growth that some of the others here have which is a bit disappointing but expect it will be good enough!

What are you drilling into that @BSH

 

[BSH]

What are you drilling into that @BSH

Wheat. It was a mix of volunteer spring oats and a pedders mix

 

[martian]

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Drilling into green cover this pm. I haven't had the growth that some of the others here have which is a bit disappointing but expect it will be good enough!

What's the soil like underneath? We've been drilling (W Barley) into similar looking green cover, chopped spring barley straw with a dash of Pedders No.1, and the seedbed is like a Mary Berry cakemix, absolutely lovely

 

[clbarclay]

Black oats (not a cheap experiment) and peas (fss) drilled 8th Aug, plus a lot of volunteer Wlin, some black grass and a less than subtle show of charlock. Father and agronomist are bullish that it won't set viable seed flowering now. Due to go into SW.


I'm not sure why the file uploader rotated pic. Its the steepest hill on the farm, but its not that steep.

 

[dontknowanything]

No way you'll get viable seeds now

 

[BSH]

What's the soil like underneath? We've been drilling (W Barley) into similar looking green cover, chopped spring barley straw with a dash of Pedders No.1, and the seedbed is like a Mary Berry cakemix, absolutely lovely

Soil condition was pretty good. It is a poor field so I am hoping that the green manure of the CC will give the field a boost.

 

[Daniel]

Black Oats and Vetch drilled 15/8:

 

[Daniel]

The oats and vetch just keep growing:

 

[Andrew K]

Daniel,
Ours is smothering out the vetch a bit, Black Oats grow like crazy!

 

[Daniel]

Daniel,
Ours is smothering out the vetch a bit, Black Oats grow like crazy!

The vetch is looking a bit pale in the bottom, maybe half the rate of oats if we use the same mix again?

 

[JD6920s]

The oats and vetch just keep growing:

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We have black oats and vetch, but not as forward as yours as drilled on 14th sept.

What do you plan for destruction and following crop, and, will you attempt to drill with the front tine in, or replace with the disc?

 

[Daniel]

We have black oats and vetch, but not as forward as yours as drilled on 14th sept.
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What do you plan for destruction and following crop, and, will you attempt to drill with the front tine in, or replace with the disc?

That will be ploughed in for sugar beet, probably flailed first maybe disced, depends what state it's in by next Feb/March?

 

[Richard III]

Autocast black oats/vetch /berseem clover/phacelia @Great In Grass sown on 25th August, autocaster supplied by @Jim Bullock

Tried a dog picture for @Daniel , but rescue greyhounds aren't the most cooperative.

 

[clbarclay]

What rate of black oats have people drill?

In the feild I previously posted, it was a fairly lean rate, about 20 kg/ha in the mix I recall. Its looking even yellower now and even without the charlock it would be a case of spotting the oats in amoungst the linseed volenteers. Nothing like theabove pictures.

 

[Robigus]

Oat and vetch mix at 40kgs/Ha drilled about 20th Aug. 40% Vetch at 60g TGW 60% Spring Oat at 32g TGW.
Interestingly some Panache Black Oats I bought to put in in the spring have a TGW of only 18g.
It was drilled using a Rapid with front discs in about an inch to encourage weed and volunteer germination.

I was wondering about its nitrogen cycle here. It's been a benign autumn here and they haven't stopped growing yet, but have they cleaned up excess N that would have gone down the drains - if we had any! or did I mineralise enough with the drill to get them this lush? I will spray them off 3 weeks before drilling so will there be any noticeable nutritional benefit over the course of the following crop?

The difference in an early September drilled crop.

And now crown rust: "The disease is favoured by high temperatures (20-25oC) so epidemics usually occur in June-July."
http://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/cereal-disease-encyclopedia/diseases/crown-rust.aspx

Sure as heck wasn't 25 centigrade when I took that.

 

[dontknowanything]

Incredible how the rust has held off this year

 

[dontknowanything]

If you pull the plants up straight, some are now getting on for chin height. Amazing October

 

[shakerator]

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If you pull the plants up straight, some are now getting on for chin height. Amazing October

When was that established ?