400 acres, 40 miles away.
- Thread starter Lexion1000
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Hereward
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- Location
- Peterborough
It's doable with some thinking.
If you can station a telehandler, tractor, trailed sprayer and fert spreader there, then a lot of the running about is reduced. If your calculator says you cannot afford to do this, then forget it.
If you can station a telehandler, tractor, trailed sprayer and fert spreader there, then a lot of the running about is reduced. If your calculator says you cannot afford to do this, then forget it.
It’s a contract farm the money on 400 acres isn’t enough to do that.
- Location
- Derbyshire
Maybe it's just the opportunity to do something different. Run it as a trial so see how simple you could get it to work or maybe you mentor a young farmer/new entrant through it. If that young person proves a success working alongside you the result is bringing new blood into the industry.
lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
If its good ground and theres a likelihood of more in the area
why not take a chance.
Clives probably checking out how much kit he can fit on a low loader while we all type!
why not take a chance.
Clives probably checking out how much kit he can fit on a low loader while we all type!
- Location
- South Northants
Why not take a tractor and trailer there and back on Monday to see how it feels.Also is it legal to go that distance on red diesel?
My issue is 400 acres is not enough to justify that distance and he will take his eye of the ball of his ‘core’ business of 3000 acres nearby his base.If its good ground and theres a likelihood of more in the area
why not take a chance.
Clives probably checking out how much kit he can fit on a low loader while we all type!
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
It’s a long way. Could you get an FBT? Continuous spring barley, dd if you can. Hardly ever need to go.
Could make 40 grand if getting 7t/ha and selling for 180 and renting for 150!
dannewhouse
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- Location
- huddersfield
400 acre is big enough for a setup like you to leave an older tractor and loader there all the time, a spare fert and sprayer and your going in car instead, are all of your tractors actually used in the spring time or are the drilling rigs big quad tracks not suitable for this job? at least then your just sending an employee?
plenty folk only have 400acre to start with!
plenty folk only have 400acre to start with!
Good spraying contractors do exist. I was lucky enough to have one. Paid him on receipt of his invoices and gave lots of notice of jobs coming up. I did spy on him occasionally and he was always very professional.
nick channer
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- Location
- buckinghamshire (south)
Yes we farm 150 acres 50 miles from base or 66 miles from our furthest land
Wish there was 500 acres there to be honest!!
But we do have our own artic and lowloader although the fastrac is pretty handy!
We do everything ourselves
Wish there was 500 acres there to be honest!!
But we do have our own artic and lowloader although the fastrac is pretty handy!
We do everything ourselves
nick channer
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- Location
- buckinghamshire (south)
Where’s it at!!
I’d be interested if it’s 60-80 miles away??
I’d be interested if it’s 60-80 miles away??
I would love to know how this is worthwhile!
- Location
- East meath/dublin
Years ago my father farmed 60 acres 30 miles from base , diesel was cheap, labour was cheap and still it was hard work. A day driving down to spray finish the next day and drive home . It always seemed to rain when the combine was over there and the sun was shining at home. With 2900 acres already i really dont think you need the hassle .
nick channer
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- Location
- buckinghamshire (south)
When U see the crap we farm around us full of red clay and flint or sand and gravel that avesrages 2.8 ton acre winter wheat compared to the soil there that averages over 4 and wears no metal it’s a no brainier!
It’s 1.45ish in a lorry or 2 hours in 50k tractor
There’s a telehsndler there for fert and grain loadin and we take one of ours for pushin grain up and loadin lorries!
Cost me £400 to transport my combine there.
I can drive tractor and fert spreader there and spread twice if need be and back in a easy day!
(That was a one off last season puttin double top on and then nitrogen on spring barley)
Sprayer goes on a low loader trailer on fastrac that does 70k and takes tank water with him and fills up there!
It’s piece cake to be honest
Fair play to that as long as it pays!
lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
I dont agree
If its top class flexible land which can achieve higher yields
then it would be as profitable as renting double the acreage of run of the mill land.
If on the other hand its worn out and wet problematic land then best left well alone.
What are the chances of this 400 acres becoming 800, then maybe 1,200 in that particular locale? What are the relative opportunities for expansion within 10 miles of your current business? The potential future of agriculture for farmers such as yourself could well be about solving farming / IHT problems for non-farming, or indeed previously farming, landowners - with protecting the value of the asset being marginally more important than the annual return. 3000 acres may well be enough for your business and family needs today, but in 10 years time post removal of subs??! Only you can answer that.
You could structure the CFA to load risk and reward equally between you and your friend, with a sizeable contractors charge to suit. It all depends on how much your friend wants YOU in particular and why he wants a CFA - is it for the annual return or to protect his asset? It naturally could be both, I’m just throwing ideas at you.
If there is potential to expand over there, it is worth serious consideration. All the best!!