Adblue usage

[JohnDeere8530]

Have a handful of New Holland T7 tractors. Most use what I would consider to be a normal amount of adblue, however I have one (T7 245) on a powerharrow that uses substantially more even though it is a smaller engine.

It seems that is uses a tank of adblue to 2 tanks of diesel. Does that sound correct? Incidentally its the newest of my T7 tractors.

 

[Lincsman]

Is it not at a higher level of emissions standard.. so therefore needs to use more to make it cleaner? That was always the claim for FPT engines, not needing DPF etc to get the next level, just a tweak on the ad blue

 

[Gee]

t seems that is uses a tank of adblue to 2 tanks of diesel. Does that sound correct? Incidentally its the newest of my T7 tractors.

Sounds fine to me. The harder it's working, the more it'll use.

 

[del_boy]

Our tier 4b t7225 uses more ad blue than the older ones, think its an emission thing

 

[Romney_Rob]

Have you considered having it switched off?

 

[JohnDeere8530]

Yes this machine is a 17 or 18 plate I think so yes it could be higher emission standards.

What's the downside of it being turned off ?

 

[Cowabunga]

Yes this machine is a 17 or 18 plate I think so yes it could be higher emission standards.

What's the downside of it being turned off ?

More NOx emissions poisoning your children allegedly.

 

[JohnDeere8530]

Many do it , easy ?

 

[michael N123]

Remap for more power less fuel used and a addblue delete thrown in

win win win

 

[Speedstar]

Have a handful of New Holland T7 tractors. Most use what I would consider to be a normal amount of adblue, however I have one (T7 245) on a powerharrow that uses substantially more even though it is a smaller engine.

It seems that is uses a tank of adblue to 2 tanks of diesel. Does that sound correct? Incidentally its the newest of my T7 tractors.

That sounds like a lot
We get 5 or 6 tank's of fuel to single add blue tank on the fendts but they have regen on them as well

 

[Farmer Roy]

seems a bit hypocritical for farmers to complain about commuters in cars or aircraft flights, while gleefully removing the emissions controls on their tractors . . .
especially when they are using tractors & red diesel ( because its cheaper / easier ) for transport

ethically, im not sure how you can justify that ?

imagine if every car owner in the UK did the same ?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Just depends what way ye look at it and if you actually care. It will bother some ppl and others wouldnt care at all

 

[Boysground]

Personally I am not keen on remapping or deleting add blue.

I do wonder what all this is going to do to the second hand market. Are we at the point where we are going to have to plug a computer into tractors to see what has been done to them before purchasing?

bg

 

[Farmer Roy]

we were running 2 John Deere CS690 Cotton Strippers this year.
$1.3 million each
1 was brand new, the other 3 years old
500 hp engines with Adblue
We covered 10000ha ( 25000 acres ) with both machines, contracting, over about 4 months
Refilled adblue every 3 or 4 days, with a hand rotary pump from a 200 l drum on the back of a ute ( so hygiene was probably less than ideal )
NEVER had an issue with it . . .

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

It seems that is uses a tank of adblue to 2 tanks of diesel. Does that sound correct? Incidentally its the newest of my T7 tractors.

It’s sounds high, but still normal for a hard working T4 Final FPT engine.

As said FPT decided they would *only* rely on Adblue to meet the emissions tier spec for T4F, so they will drink more than engines that use AdBlue in combo with EGR like JD or Deutz reverted to in T4F guise.

All the very latest Stage V (5) spec engines will need a soot catcher (DPF) irrespective of colour or previous hyperbole.

 

[JohnDeere8530]

It's all getting a bit silly nowadays isnt it

 

[Zebbedee]

Have a handful of New Holland T7 tractors. Most use what I would consider to be a normal amount of adblue, however I have one (T7 245) on a powerharrow that uses substantially more even though it is a smaller engine.

It seems that is uses a tank of adblue to 2 tanks of diesel. Does that sound correct? Incidentally its the newest of my T7 tractors.

Just started another thread on ad blue before seeing this one?? what percentage of ad blue to fuel are you using? My tractor is drinking the stuff

 

[Two Tone]

I went to an NH dealer presentation when AdBlue was first introduced on their tractors. They said that at full engine load, to expect to fill the Adblue tank up once for every two tanks of Diesel.

 

[Finn farmer]

seems a bit hypocritical for farmers to complain about commuters in cars or aircraft flights, while gleefully removing the emissions controls on their tractors . . .
especially when they are using tractors & red diesel ( because its cheaper / easier ) for transport

ethically, im not sure how you can justify that ?

imagine if every car owner in the UK did the same ?

Atleast here the authorities have woken up and realised that the truckers bypass ad-blue systems. They're now being tested and if the system is bypassed they will be fined (several thousands of euros), the truck/lorry is immediately stripped of its plates and put to driving ban (so it basically needs to be towed). Only way to get the plates back is to re-enable the ad-blue system and then get the truck inspected.

we were running 2 John Deere CS690 Cotton Strippers this year.
$1.3 million each
1 was brand new, the other 3 years old
500 hp engines with Adblue
We covered 10000ha ( 25000 acres ) with both machines, contracting, over about 4 months
Refilled adblue every 3 or 4 days, with a hand rotary pump from a 200 l drum on the back of a ute ( so hygiene was probably less than ideal )
NEVER had an issue with it . . .

Warmth isn't the problem, the problem is when the temperatures hit minus degrees and the ad-blue starts to freeze.

 

[Flat 10]

Atleast here the authorities have woken up and realised that the truckers bypass ad-blue systems. They're now being tested and if the system is bypassed they will be fined (several thousands of euros), the truck/lorry is immediately stripped of its plates and put to driving ban (so it basically needs to be towed). Only way to get the plates back is to re-enable the ad-blue system and then get the truck inspected.


Warmth isn't the problem, the problem is when the temperatures hit minus degrees and the ad-blue starts to freeze.

Trucks are wouldn't pass their annual tests if ad blue is removed and you are liable to big fines if they have been.