AHBD advertising and Vegans.

[unlacedgecko]

https://www.facebook.com/1743390035906798/posts/2715135672065558

interesting stats there.

 

[Sheep]

Why do all these vegan lads look the same?

 

[unlacedgecko]

Why do all these vegan lads look the same?

Like they're in need of a good steak?

 

[Phil P]

So, who’s getting over 50% of there income from subsidies, I know I’m not ?
Throwing some big figures around in that video. Anyone care to fact check them?

 

[Phil P]

Why do all these vegan lads look the same?

Perhaps it’s just the same one, there can’t be that many surly!

 

[Al R]

Like they're in need of a good steak?

And a good shearing ?‍
It’s enough of a problem to get rid of oats as it is unless your on a Quaker Oats/Porridge contract, almost can’t give it away if in any great volume...
You can see why people would change though? The wife had to have it when breastfeeding and said it was like bad cardboard but it was the best out of all the alternatives.

 

[Al R]

So, who’s getting over 50% of there income from subsidies, I know I’m not ?
Throwing some big figures around in that video. Anyone care to fact check them?

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Not dairy here, mainly sheep and in 2 environmental schemes and organic and get BPS on 2/3rd of the acreage I’m farming and Subsidies is around 20%.

 

[Phil P]

Not dairy here, mainly sheep and in 2 environmental schemes and organic and get BPS on 2/3rd of the acreage I’m farming and Subsidies is around 20%.

Would you class environmental schemes as a sub though?
Bps fair enough it’s money for old rope just to keep prices down.
Environmental schemes are generally taking land out of production of a fashion so just pay their own way.
Perhaps I’m just over complicating it?‍?

 

[Chris F]

At least they are promoting drinking uk grown oat milk. If only they had mentioned red tractor!

Rest is a lot of fluff. Short on facts, long on emotional subtext. You are much more likely to get net zero, organic milk than you are to get net zero organic oat milk. In fact its not even a close comparison.

 

[Al R]

Would you class environmental schemes as a sub though?
Bps fair enough it’s money for old rope just to keep prices down.
Environmental schemes are generally taking land out of production of a fashion so just pay their own way.
Perhaps I’m just over complicating it?‍?

10% of my income then ?‍

 

[neilo]

Would you class environmental schemes as a sub though?
Bps fair enough it’s money for old rope just to keep prices down.
Environmental schemes are generally taking land out of production of a fashion so just pay their own way.
Perhaps I’m just over complicating it?‍?

EU rules have always been that enviro payments can only amount to deemed income foregone, rather than paying us a profit to do the work. Apparently that can change now we’re throwing off the shackles, but I’m not holding my breath.

however, I dare say any enviro payments will be included in the calculations used by Mr Vegan there, and his corporate backers.

 

[Clive]

Well done AHDB - your have finally rattled them !

 

[yin ewe]

Didnt hear him mention the amount of subsidies that oat farmers get, perhaps cereal farmers don't get any

 

[Barleycorn]

These people are prats, how is cereal farming using chemical inputs 'sustainable', better for the planet than cows eating grass which is fertilised by the cows?

 

[Sid]

Twisted facts as per usual but very slick and quick off the mark. No mention of the 300k from DairyUK.

Do we bother with a come back or not rise to their lies?

 

[Headless chicken]

Twisted facts as per usual but very slick and quick off the mark. No mention of the 300k from DairyUK.

Do we bother with a come back or not rise to their lies?

dont rise fo it. Let them have their nut juice moments and tag it the same. By default they will encourage the dairy scheme and it makes us look more inclusive. In the claims about subs they seem to have forgotten about mr dyson

 

[Clive]

dont rise fo it. Let them have their nut juice moments and tag it the same. By default they will encourage the dairy scheme and it makes us look more inclusive. In the claims about subs they seem to have forgotten about mr dyson

this ^ learn from their methods on social media

that video is good for Milk sales imo ! - they don’t realise it but they are doing exactly as intended and promoting milk !

“all publicity is good publicity”.


farmers need to stop reacting to these minority groups - doing so achieves their goal and makes minority a bigger conversation

 

[Sid]

dont rise fo it. Let them have their nut juice moments and tag it the same. By default they will encourage the dairy scheme and it makes us look more inclusive. In the claims about subs they seem to have forgotten about mr dyson

I have refrained from going on their website and clicking on the download on how to switch to being an oat farmer.
I can see it now, over 2000 farmers (could actually be anyone) have downloaded our information pack on how to grow oats.

 

[Tarw Coch]

this ^ learn from their methods on social media

that video is good for Milk sales imo ! - they don’t realise it but they are doing exactly as intended and promoting milk !

“all publicity is good publicity”.


farmers need to stop reacting to these minority groups - doing so achieves their goal and makes minority a bigger conversation

Absolutely, unfortunately I can see plenty of farmer types reacting with abusive comments on social media to what is an excellent albeit inaccurate piece of work on their part, the abusive and negative comments only making that video look all the more credible to those who know no better .
Abusive farmer comments to that video will probably do more damage than the video itself

 

[Clive]

I have refrained from going on their website and clicking on the download on how to switch to being an oat farmer.
I can see it now, over 2000 farmers (could actually be anyone) have downloaded our information pack on how to grow oats.

"if a tree falls in forest and no-one hears it does it make a sound ?" Chinese proverb !