AI, how to gain more society control.

[TelesnaAg]

The biggest load of bullsh*t sayings going at the moment is "AI will take all our jobs".

And its being used because climate change is fading, so they need a new way tp get ypung voters to give up civil liberties.

Next time your in your own town or city, look around and ask yourself...what jobs can AI do, do t feel stupid if ypu cant come up with any.

Robots of course one day will be able to do most...but that doesnt mean it will happen.

Theres alot of tech now people will not take up, because it does not benefit them.

And last but not least, you think any government in there right mind wants everyone walki g around with nothing to do??? Quickest way to lose power for sure.

Govts want people busier so they dont have tome to follow all there corruption.

Automation will always evolve amd expand, has done for 50 years now, are we less busy??? To f*ck we arent, never been so busy.

Ant...

 

[stevedave]

I would say most middle management and civil service jobs could be done by AI. As a rule of thumb I think if you did an apprenticeship your job may change alot but you should be OK if you went to university I would be concerned.

 

[farmerfred86]

Most worrying thing I've read about AI so far is that people are tricking simple platforms like chatgpt into producing code for quite damaging attacks on IT infrastructure.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

AI gives me enough money it can have my job and I'll go sit on a beach

 

[ollie989898]

Most worrying thing I've read about AI so far is that people are tricking simple platforms like chatgpt into producing code for quite damaging attacks on IT infrastructure.

No worthwhile hacker involved in anything nefarious would be using chat GPT to design and write their attacks. Everything chat GPT does is logged and sent back to the mothership for potential analysis because the developers will be wanting the data to measure performance and improve their service. Google and other search engines are exactly the same. You may as well leave a sign outside your house saying 'FBI please come and arrest me'.

The real serious black hat hackers will be paid by foreign governments and will be working in a totally secure environment away from the internet.

 

[SteveHants]

The biggest load of bullsh*t sayings going at the moment is "AI will take all our jobs".

And its being used because climate change is fading, so they need a new way tp get ypung voters to give up civil liberties.

Next time your in your own town or city, look around and ask yourself...what jobs can AI do, do t feel stupid if ypu cant come up with any.

Robots of course one day will be able to do most...but that doesnt mean it will happen.

Theres alot of tech now people will not take up, because it does not benefit them.

And last but not least, you think any government in there right mind wants everyone walki g around with nothing to do??? Quickest way to lose power for sure.

Govts want people busier so they dont have tome to follow all there corruption.

Automation will always evolve amd expand, has done for 50 years now, are we less busy??? To f*ck we arent, never been so busy.

Ant...

How is it being used to erode civil liberties?
I can see AI doing the vast majority of manufacturing before long, possibly with construction to follow, ore refinement, transport planning/supply chain management, power grid/distribution etc etc

This is why such things as "citizens wages" have been trialled by various governments.

 

[ollie989898]

How is it being used to erode civil liberties?
I can see AI doing the vast majority of manufacturing before long, possibly with construction to follow, ore refinement, transport planning/supply chain management, power grid/distribution etc etc

This is why such things as "citizens wages" have been trialled by various governments.

Software already does a great deal of manufacturing. A robot can do simple tasks a lot more precisely than a human. Ore refining, transport planning and supply chain is already largely done by software. I would think software plays a big role in power distribution also.

 

[SteveHants]

Software already does a great deal of manufacturing. A robot can do simple tasks a lot more precisely than a human. Ore refining, transport planning and supply chain is already largely done by software. I would think software plays a big role in power distribution also.

Exactly, its not a big reach to say that sooner or later it will all be done by robots/ai, see also: most heavy industry.

Personal transport might not be there, but I bet things like shipping/rail freight will eventually be done entirely by robots/ai

Looking like developments in arable machinery are ai driven robot based too...

Veg picking/grading (where it isn't already).

 

[ollie989898]

Exactly, its not a big reach to say that sooner or later it will all be done by robots/ai, see also: most heavy industry.

Personal transport might not be there, but I bet things like shipping/rail freight will eventually be done entirely by robots/ai

Much of shipping could be done by an autopilot- aircraft already fly extensively on autopilot but the problems start when anything out of the ordinary occur- getting into a harbour in adverse weather, encountering a disabled vessel, failure of positioning equipment or other mechanical casualty.

 

[Stewie]

AI has the potential to remove a lot of non-creative, intellectual jobs...basically the one doing run-of-the-mill white collar jobs: think of accountants, your bank manager, some health professionals, paralegals, coders, customer care, etc.
Basically the ones that mostly escaped automation so far.

 

[wanton dwarf]

AI has the potential to remove a lot of non-creative, intellectual jobs...basically the one doing run-of-the-mill white collar jobs: think of accountants, your bank manager, some health professionals, paralegals, coders, customer care, etc.
Basically the ones that mostly escaped automation so far.

Bascially scan & replace but not replacement of creation of new systems.

However, IF the original source material is copyrighted - like anyone trying to sell someone else's creation they'll end up in court paying damages & having to remove what they passed off as their own material.

People who threw data onto "Free" online storage only have themselves to blame. Nothing is for free.

Coding has been doing this kind of thing for over 30 years - I wrote a system to do that in my 20s.

 

[Red Fred]

I was playing round with an AI image generator the other night. It looks harmless enough but it will soon become smart enough to render commercial artists and designers redundant. It is already becoming a bone of contention on Facebook pages such as "Aviation Art." There are some wonderful artists on there displaying their work, but then a kid with an Ai image generator claims his work is art too as he "imagined" the parameters he fed into the generator. Is it still art? It's an interesting point although currently it still has the unreal feel of the CGI you see in films such as Pearl Harbor.

 

[ollie989898]

I was playing round with an AI image generator the other night. It looks harmless enough but it will soon become smart enough to render commercial artists and designers redundant. It is already becoming a bone of contention on Facebook pages such as "Aviation Art." There are some wonderful artists on there displaying their work, but then a kid with an Ai image generator claims his work is art too as he "imagined" the parameters he fed into the generator. Is it still art? It's an interesting point although currently it still has the unreal feel of the CGI you see in films such as Pearl Harbor.

The reason AI can't make totally life-like imagery is because computers and software just aren't able to do it yet. Even the latest films where the CGI is done by human designers are hamstrung by limitations of software and displays. The very latest games aren't there yet, either. They are inching closer year on year though. It's just a case of the number of pixels, colours and lighting effects along with some serious computing hardware to be able to render it. Give it another 10 years and we will see games where you will struggle to tell them from reality because their level of fidelity will be so high.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

I would say most middle management and civil service jobs could be done by AI. As a rule of thumb I think if you did an apprenticeship your job may change alot but you should be OK if you went to university I would be concerned.

I'd say that an awful lot of middle management and civil service jobs are pointless anyway, so why would you want to replace them with AI?

 

[stevedave]

I would agree whole heartedly. Remember alot of jobs especially in the civil service exist purely to give people something to do so replacing them with AI is giving somebody else something to do.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

How is it being used to erode civil liberties?
I can see AI doing the vast majority of manufacturing before long, possibly with construction to follow, ore refinement, transport planning/supply chain management, power grid/distribution etc etc

This is why such things as "citizens wages" have been trialled by various governments.

There is a HUGE difference between robots programmed with a single function to perform and machine learning. The ability of machines to learn independent of human intervention is truly a dangerous path. Terminator will have to be rebranded as a documentary rather than Sci-fi..

 

[Swarfmonkey]

Remember alot of jobs especially in the civil service exist purely to give people something to do

I'd pitch it more as "a hell of a lot of civil service jobs exist in order to supposedly sort out problems caused by other civil servants".

 

[TelesnaAg]

How is it being used to erode civil liberties?
I can see AI doing the vast majority of manufacturing before long, possibly with construction to follow, ore refinement, transport planning/supply chain management, power grid/distribution etc etc

This is why such things as "citizens wages" have been trialled by various governments.

Robotics and automation are not AI.

Kids are being told climate is stuffed and you will have no job, they hand over control.

I will bet tenner you will be very wrong with AI doing anything as its a software program not a physical being...

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

There is a HUGE difference between robots programmed with a single function to perform and machine learning. The ability of machines to learn independent of human intervention is truly a dangerous path. Terminator will have to be rebranded as a documentary rather than Sci-fi..

Machine learning is jusy bulk computation of probability, have you seen the level of qaulity in the nerd brigades coding lately..solid beta testing is not in their mindset, so it has endless issues.

I deal with ML in telemety and it can usually be replaced with some very simple algorithms, its handybdor some scoping and thats it.

Along with AI its over sold.

If the world thinks it can replace human energy with metal and electric, then i wonder wear all these resources are going to come from? We have power blackouts now...all it does is expolde human consumption because we are now adding in a robot to do out job, thats consumption, thats carbon, resources and electricity.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

AI to do civil servant work is along way off, reason being the software programs are not fault free enough, the data coming in is not clean enough, AI work with SAP lol no chance in hell,

Will Ai get on the phone and try call old mate about an invoice thats wrong?? Not happening.

Ant...