Ain't all bad in Russia.

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Diesel 0.6 Euro/litre.
Infinite gas
No proposed meat tax
No wokism (whatever that is!) Ban it anyway.
Great ballet
Great Lada chip-free cars
Male/Female clearly defined (before hormone jabs that is)
Bags of wide open spaces

Move over Vlad we're invading
Average wage of <£11k p.a. (From Russian Gov't stat's, others reckon <£10k p.a.)
No vote that counts.
No free speech.
No rule of law.
Frequent shortages of meat & other food.
Guaranteed police / army brutality if you complain.

Let us know how you like it.
 

manhill

Member
Average wage of <£11k p.a. (From Russian Gov't stat's, others reckon <£10k p.a.)
No vote that counts.
No free speech.
No rule of law.
Frequent shortages of meat & other food.
Guaranteed police / army brutality if you complain.

Let us know how you like it.

Just need minor adjustments to your list and we're on our way.
Can't wait to see all those beautiful Laras in their fur hats and leather boots.
Who's a dreamer???
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Just need minor adjustments to your list and we're on our way.
Can't wait to see all those beautiful Laras in their fur hats and leather boots.
Who's a dreamer???
All those beautiful Lara’s have hopped, skipped and jumped to the West just as quick as they can to find a typical Englishman and his £250,000 a yearto keep them in luxury .
Sadly you will be left with Olga, but never mind she will be a good worker, after she was in the olympic weightlifting team but kicked out for misuse of testosterone 😋
 

manhill

Member
All those beautiful Lara’s have hopped, skipped and jumped to the West just as quick as they can to find a typical Englishman and his £250,000 a yearto keep them in luxury .
Sadly you will be left with Olga, but never mind she will be a good worker, after she was in the olympic weightlifting team but kicked out for misuse of testosterone 😋

I'll put up with the lack of beauty as long as she can wrestle a steer.
 
Diesel 0.6 Euro/litre.
Infinite gas
No proposed meat tax
No wokism (whatever that is!) Ban it anyway.
Great ballet
Great Lada chip-free cars
Male/Female clearly defined (before hormone jabs that is)
Bags of wide open spaces

Move over Vlad we're invading

If you like the sounds of that then North Korea might suit you even better!

Very little traffic on the roads- but full of bicycles and ox and cart. Not just 1970's farming, no, were talking 1790's farming.

Free national health exercise programme. No more lard arshes if everyone is stuck living on 1800 calories and running around with worms.

No social media to speak of- enjoy greater productivity in your working day.

Very little mobile phone use- enjoy your labours undisturbed for days at a time!

Free military uniform for everyone on their 14th birthday, national service ends age 30.... Sorts out youth unemployment nicely this one as you can imagine.

Mandatory national service- a firm favourite on TFF!

Plenty of space in prisons- they are open-air!

No fancy imported foods for breakfast, in fact, no fancy imported foods at all besides rice and maize- just old fashioned gruel for brekkie then.

National holiday every year on the birthday of Kim Jung.

Lots of regular firework shows provided by the state- as they test their latest rocket or nuclear weapon.


Whats not to like? Emigrate now.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I worked in Iran for a while. Everybody there was clamouring to get to the West for what? More television channels, and fast food really. I told them not to bother. I actually didn’t mind living in Iran. Basic wholesome food, no processed shite, proper law and order, praying 5 times a day was a nice break/meditation. No obsession with health and safety. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. And actually more highly educated women engineers than you will find here. I got on alright with the mullahs despite being a Christian. Mutual respect. A lot of western culture isn’t even culture TBH. It’s the lowest materialist common denominator. I wouldn’t completely disrespect other systems after working there. The ones who kick up a fuss are the same as those who kick up a fuss here. Pffft.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
I worked in Iran for a while. Everybody there was clamouring to get to the West for what? More television channels, and fast food really. I told them not to bother. I actually didn’t mind living in Iran. Basic wholesome food, no processed shite, proper law and order, praying 5 times a day was a nice break/meditation. No obsession with health and safety. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. And actually more highly educated women engineers than you will find here. I got on alright with the mullahs despite being a Christian. Mutual respect. A lot of western culture isn’t even culture TBH. It’s the lowest materialist common denominator. I wouldn’t completely disrespect other systems after working there. The ones who kick up a fuss are the same as those who kick up a fuss here. Pffft.
I spent time in the Sudan and i would say it’s very similar. Been to Russia and been to China and i’d say life for the average working person is pretty ok. For the vast majority of the world it’s the shame day to day grind to put food on the table and a roof over your head etc.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Well, I've lived in two dictatorships, visited many others and have friends who have come here from some of them. Of course there are choices in all of these places, but what can be chosen, whether it's a foodstuff, a shoe or what to say - and even think! - is decided upon by the state.

Lack of crime, if one sets aside intimidation, imprisonment and murder by the state, may well be a positive thing, but it and the other so called benefits of these places simply aren't worth what must be given up or never experienced to live in them.

If I think of the Iranians, Russians, North Korean, Chinese etc. etc. who I have met, having managed to escape their countries of origin, I'm minded that not a single one wants to go back there now. Many, perhaps all, miss their 'country', meaning the land, the customs, foods, family and friends*, but none would change their place here for a return.




*That is one of the most insidious things about these regimes, it can be almost impossible to know who really is a friend. I have spoken with former East Germans who had no idea that lifelong 'friends' were informing on them, until after the Stasi files came out (many people have never opted to see their file, preferring ignorance to finding out unpleasant things); not my own experience, but I have been told of marriages there that were, initially anyway, made under false pretences. Horrible.
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
If you like the sounds of that then North Korea might suit you even better!

Very little traffic on the roads
- but full of bicycles and ox and cart. Not just 1970's farming, no, were talking 1790's farming.

Free national health exercise programme. No more lard arshes if everyone is stuck living on 1800 calories and running around with worms.

No social media to speak of- enjoy greater productivity in your working day.

Very little mobile phone use- enjoy your labours undisturbed for days at a time!

Free military uniform for everyone on their 14th birthday, national service ends age 30.... Sorts out youth unemployment nicely this one as you can imagine.

Mandatory national service- a firm favourite on TFF!

Plenty of space in prisons- they are open-air!

No fancy imported foods for breakfast, in fact, no fancy imported foods at all besides rice and maize- just old fashioned gruel for brekkie then.

National holiday every year on the birthday of Kim Jung. We have them too for The Queen.

Lots of regular firework shows provided by the state- as they test their latest rocket or nuclear weapon. Remember Christmas Island?



Whats not to like? Emigrate now.
Brings back memories of my childhood. Didn't have open air prisons but nobody went abroad on holiday.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
I spent time in the Sudan and i would say it’s very similar. Been to Russia and been to China and i’d say life for the average working person is pretty ok. For the vast majority of the world it’s the shame day to day grind to put food on the table and a roof over your head etc.
The majority of comments regarding other countries come from those that have never lived or even visited said countries.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
If I think of the Iranians, Russians, North Korean, Chinese etc. etc. who I have met, having managed to escape their countries of origin, I'm minded that not a single one wants to go back there now. Many, perhaps all, miss their 'country', meaning the land, the customs, foods, family and friends*, but none would change their place here for a return.
The same could be said for those that have emigrated from the UK, they miss certain elements of the country they have left (mainly friends and family) but wouldn't move back, it depends on what life style and way of life you want to lead.
Personally I would't want to live in the Middle East, Russia or China, but then I wouldn't want to live in the UK or USA either.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
The same could be said for those that have emigrated from the UK, they miss certain elements of the country they have left (mainly friends and family) but wouldn't move back, it depends on what life style and way of life you want to lead.
Personally I would't want to live in the Middle East, Russia or China, but then I wouldn't want to live in the UK or USA either.
Take the USA 'land of the free and home of the brave' 2.3 million people were in prison in 2016 very close to 1 in 100 of the population in fact nearly a quarter of the worlds prisoners are in the USA. I've lived there too and American policemen frightened the life out of me.They take crime very seriously except if it's knocking a teenager off his moped by driving on the wrong side of the road.
 
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The Agrarian

Member
Location
Co Antrim
. A man is a man and a woman is a woman.

No. What you mean is, a man is a man (and he hides the more feminine shades and colours of his character); a woman is a subordinate creature, put on earth for the pleasure of and to be under the control of 'the man.' In Russia the law is written to put LGBT persons in a subordinate category, and shores up the abusive culture against them.

You see, it's quite alright to dismiss these things when you are one of the unaffected groups. But it's a dog's life for those who by accident of birth are are treated very differently, and cannot live with the same dignity afforded to you. For a gay person, Iran is not dissimilar in many ways to nazi Germany. This thread shows how short our memories are, and the timing with holocaust memorial is particularly poignant.
 

MX7

Member
Location
cotswolds
Russian leaders contemplating invading Ukraine tells me how the Russian leaders minds work, madness.I hope I am wrong , but if they do how will it all end up for mankind?????
Not well at all.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
The same could be said for those that have emigrated from the UK, they miss certain elements of the country they have left (mainly friends and family) but wouldn't move back, it depends on what life style and way of life you want to lead.
Personally I would't want to live in the Middle East, Russia or China, but then I wouldn't want to live in the UK or USA either.
Of course it could, and of those who have left NZ. But the point is that neither country has an oppressive regime in charge, restricting the fundamental democratic rights... :unsure:
 

Ashtree

Member
Vlad invading a neighbour or three is a terrible thing. Uncle SAM and his coalition of the willing, crossing the globe to reign “shock and awe” on Iraq, because Saddam toddled over to his neighbour Kuwait, to borrow a few cans of oil, is a good thing.
Why even Mrs. T, when her political future looked most tepid indeed, sent half her forces over to a barren rock in the south Atlantic, just to fend of a few scrap metal dealers. That too was a good thing, especially since the little adventure saved her her career.
Putin is just trying to save his career. Just sayin….
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
Vlad invading a neighbour or three is a terrible thing. Uncle SAM and his coalition of the willing, crossing the globe to reign “shock and awe” on Iraq, because Saddam toddled over to his neighbour Kuwait, to borrow a few cans of oil, is a good thing.
Why even Mrs. T, when her political future looked most tepid indeed, sent half her forces over to a barren rock in the south Atlantic, just to fend of a few scrap metal dealers. That too was a good thing, especially since the little adventure saved her her career.
Putin is just trying to save his career. Just sayin….
You help your friends and allies it's quite simple. Putin would have been through (or at least tried ) Ukraine and the other Baltic states if he wasn't sure of what the response would be likewise China and Taiwan. Saddam and Galtieri would n't have done what they did if they had realised what the response would be. Invading sovereign states and territories is something no one should be doing anymore. The days of Cromwell are long gone or at least they should be all the things you quoted were a response to foreign aggression. If you'd been talking about the second Gulf war you might have a point.
 
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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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