Antibiotic failure

[Fergieman]

did the tanker fail or just your individual sample? if the milk was used for its intended use then it is harsh to only pay 1ppl for it. other buyers have the same policy.

 

[William Mellor]

They don’t have choice on the FSA front now, it’s a statutory requirement for milk buyers to report all AB failures to FSA.

So an FSA inspection will achieve what? I’m not having a go but there was nothing I could do to prevent it as I’ve not used any antibiotics! I could understand other wise

 

[Kingofgrass]

I don’t think I’ve upset anyone that I know of, there are water troughs next to public footpaths maybe a possibility?? Just talked to the tanker driver and he reckons this is happening more often since they’ve swapped over onto a more sensative antibotic tester

Tonight’s milk passed ?

 

[William Mellor]

did the tanker fail or just your individual sample? if the milk was used for its intended use then it is harsh to only pay 1ppl for it. other buyers have the same policy.

They won’t tell me

 

[beefyapmyrddin]

What tester have you got? They would probably want a 3hr delvo done. Although 5 minute charm test done as quick release on most tankers.

 

[pellow]

My father had the same thing with DC, phoned them up saying it needed retesting as we didn't have anything treated, father blows pretty hot and it went up through the management of DC and he was getting nowhere, we had a jug in the fridge and it passed, in the end they said they tested it again and it passed but they couldn't pay as it had been thrown away, after more heat from father they said they'd pay half, but he didn't accept the offer and sold his cows

 

[William Mellor]

Tonight’s milk passed ?

Yes, well before I put the 4th milking in anyway

 

[William Mellor]

What tester have you got? They would probably want a 3hr delvo done. Although 5 minute charm test done as quick release on most tankers.

I have a delvo 3 hour tester but they say they’ve recently changed onto some new highly sensitive testers

 

[Had enough.com]

Expect a visit on Monday

 

[Grassman247]

Had this myself 4 years ago with my milk buyer. I do use dry cow therapy but we are spring calving and it was the middle of the summer. We tested every single cow on the farm and found traces of anti biotic in some of them, cepravin rep came out and admitted that anti biotics stay in cows a lot longer than withdrawal periods state but they are at an “acceptable” level.

All of a sudden we started passing on the bulk milk test 4 after 4 days of failing. Months later received a phone call saying the lady doing the testing had mixed up the farm numbers and got the wrong farm. I’d be inclined to say someone at the dairy has made a mistake.

Feel your pain though, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack that your certain isn’t your fault but how on earth do you prove it

 

[mixed breed]

Just out of interest, with your nml test for day you failed, does your bf and protein ring true with your usual results?

 

[William Mellor]

Just out of interest, with your nml test for day you failed, does your bf and protein ring true with your usual results?

Yes bf and protein haven’t changed by much

 

[betweenthelines]

Along with the "water in the milk" debacle, farmers seem to be getting the shiity end of the stick from buyers.

It seems ridiculous that the buyers can say the milk has failed a test (for whatever reason) and not retain a sample for retesting (which should be done as a matter of course before rejecting) either by themselves or by an independent lab.

Still, you all voted (one way or another) to lose the protection of the MMB, so you've only yourselves to blame.


I can remember during the REAL drought of '76 my father getting a call from Coop Dairies complaining about the milk quality and telling him to start feeding hay. Dad rang MMB who sent a chap out to see him.he told Dad to manage the cows as he wanted and not as CWS wanted, not at all happy that they were speaking to the farmers.

 

[mixed breed]

Yes bf and protein haven’t changed by much

Shame, It was just a stab in the dark, but if they were different by a fair margin then back to your usual on your next test, it would be a good bit of evidence that it wasn't your sample on the day of failure.

Its a helpless situation, I don't know what to say except, be prepared for an inspection.

 

[Milkcow365]

I had a antibiotic failure last week same circumstance having used no antibiotics in over a week,

 

[Homesy]

If you haven't treated any cows lately and it is not your dry cows, then there is only one question to ask.

Who's wife have you been sha**ing ?

 

[kiwi pom]

If the tanker load didn't fail they will only have a small sample to test i'd have thought.
How do they record supplier details on your sample? sounds like a mix up to me.
Bit different if the tanker load fails an inhibs test because it can be retested several times and individual farm samples kept separate straight away and sent to the lab so no mix ups.
Unless of course the tanker only has your milk on.

 

[Sid]

Have seen antibiotic failures traced back to drivers taking the sample from the bottom tap and it containing traces of chemicals enough to show a false positive.

Are you auto sampled @William Mellor

 

[Suckndiesel]

Neighbour here had a similar problem a few years ago, turned out it was damp getting to the meal and it then growing penicillin. See in another thread you're buying in hay for the milk cows, no mould in it?

 

[William Mellor]

Have seen antibiotic failures traced back to drivers taking the sample from the bottom tap and it containing traces of chemicals enough to show a false positive.

Are you auto sampled @William Mellor

Yes tanker has auto sampler