anyone on spreading fert

[Bossfarmer]

whats the latest I can get away with putting first dressing on ww given im central Scotland, 450ft up and its feed wheat?

 

[rob1]

whats the latest I can get away with putting first dressing on ww given im central Scotland, 450ft up and its feed wheat?

yesterday

 

[Brisel]

yesterday

No, last week!

whats the latest I can get away with putting first dressing on ww given im central Scotland, 450ft up and its feed wheat?

Does it look yellow or stressed? Any muck on it? Sowing date? Growth stage? Feed the crop, not the calendar.

 

[Zippy768]

40 kg N so far. I will think about doing the next dose of 100 kg N after I've finished the osr in a few days' time. Lots of spraying to fit in too but the wheat doesn't look hungry or is starting to extend yet, so there's a bit of time in hand. The wheat here looks plenty lush enough.

Only 40 kg N here. 60% of it looks lush and healthy, other 40% could do with another kick. Bit of a workload gap tomorrow so it will all get the rest of the sulphur blend which will take it to 75 kg N, and into April. T0's on the better 60% end of the week/ weekend hopefully, Agron finalising what it could do with. Panorama looking a bit dull on its lower leaves.

On a different note, other half is away this eve so got a Dominoes pizza en route

 

[e3120]

Tramlines still unsullied here. Probably see Moddus before any N.

 

[Bossfarmer]

No, last week!



Does it look yellow or stressed? Any muck on it? Sowing date? Growth stage? Feed the crop, not the calendar.

Started to go a touch yellow in small parts mainly not too bad yet tho, still earlier growth stages than most the photos i see on here was nov drilled

 

[Flat 10]

Tramlines still unsullied here. Probably see Moddus before any N.

That's interesting. I would be wanting to put N on that as a priority. Never ceases to amaze me how different we all are!
Perhaps you will get a much bigger yield than I could manage, or perhaps you could try a tramline of N now and see if it makes much difference come harvest?

 

[robbie]

I always panic about keeping barley well fed and if I can't travel when I want I always panic that it'll go hungry and loose yield but there's some who will quite happily let it go hungry and not be bothered by it.

I wonder how it compares come harvest? am I putting it on wrong and growing to much biomass?

 

[Bossfarmer]

I always panic about keeping barley well fed and if I can't travel when I want I always panic that it'll go hungry and loose yield but there's some who will quite happily let it go hungry and not be bothered by it.

I wonder how it compares come harvest? am I putting it on wrong and growing to much biomass?

what about wheat? I read somewhere n timing wasn't that important for ww or am I mistaken? been bloody wet up here

 

[Bossfarmer]

another point would be how many weeks behind England would central Scotland be in a normal growing season?

 

[Happy]

another point would be how many weeks behind England would central Scotland be in a normal growing season?

Probably only a week or two for same sowing date just now but will increase with temperature differential as season goes on.
Would think November sown at 450ft up you will be a good 5 weeks later than main English wheat harvest.
Would think you'd want to be getting some on now to get things moving and the rest in a months time.

 

[4course]

another point would be how many weeks behind England would central Scotland be in a normal growing season?

maybe wrong but I thought it was more to do with a longer growing season up north and daylight ,time of sowing to time of harvest etc the crop could harvested well over a month or more longer. southern harvest is often finished before we start on similar acerage so it follows that growth stages will vary but arnt they just extended up north grain fill certainly is

 

[e3120]

That's interesting. I would be wanting to put N on that as a priority. Never ceases to amaze me how different we all are!
Perhaps you will get a much bigger yield than I could manage, or perhaps you could try a tramline of N now and see if it makes much difference come harvest?

I welcome your perspective, hence the picture. Just found that going on earlier on the wheat produced nothing but straw. Much as I can use that, it's not much fun trying to keep it upright. This is Grafton, chosen to stay short & stiff in a field that has been in grass for 7 years and is beside the yard so has had muck/feed carted to it for decades.

I may well give a tramline some fizz next time I'm out. I'd expect 10-11t from 120kg N. World record field is about a mile away.

 

[bankrupt]

This is Grafton, chosen to stay short & stiff.

Good thinking, e3120, but watch out for a windy weekend when it's near ripe.

 

[Bossfarmer]

so can we conclude that earlier fert applications on wheat mainly affect straw quantity?

 

[Bossfarmer]

Probably only a week or two for same sowing date just now but will increase with temperature differential as season goes on.
Would think November sown at 450ft up you will be a good 5 weeks later than main English wheat harvest.
Would think you'd want to be getting some on now to get things moving and the rest in a months time.

id have thought one of the main differences would be the ground in England would start to heat up quicker in the spring and also those farms lower down in altitude?

 

[Flat 10]

I welcome your perspective, hence the picture. Just found that going on earlier on the wheat produced nothing but straw. Much as I can use that, it's not much fun trying to keep it upright. This is Grafton, chosen to stay short & stiff in a field that has been in grass for 7 years and is beside the yard so has had muck/feed carted to it for decades.

I may well give a tramline some fizz next time I'm out. I'd expect 10-11t from 120kg N. World record field is about a mile away.

Interesting for me too. Doubt I will manage to reach the heights of 11t/ha on any of my fields.

 

[Wombat]

so can we conclude that earlier fert applications on wheat mainly affect straw quantity?

I wanted some more tillers on mine so not for me.

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

I welcome your perspective, hence the picture. Just found that going on earlier on the wheat produced nothing but straw. Much as I can use that, it's not much fun trying to keep it upright. This is Grafton, chosen to stay short & stiff in a field that has been in grass for 7 years and is beside the yard so has had muck/feed carted to it for decades.

I may well give a tramline some fizz next time I'm out. I'd expect 10-11t from 120kg N. World record field is about a mile away.

120kgs n = 10/11t ha of wheat?

 

[Flat 10]

120kgs n = 10/11t ha of wheat?

I thought that but think it's plus FYM and plenty of residual fertility.....