Are the AHDB complicit with RT?

[Worsall]

Are the AHDB complicit with RT?​

Please see the Arable Commentary thread, do the AHDB think we are thick?....some serious digging going on.

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[Clive]

Do AHDB have any future after the contents are exposed?

I would suggest the authour of one particular email maybe in an untenable position

What I would like to see is AHDB use this as a chance to change a culture that has clearly become self serving and not always in the key payers best interest first and foremost

 

[robbie]

Could these emails not be put up anonymously for all of us to see?????

 

[SilliamWhale]

Anyone in doubt of collusion between AHDB, NFU, and Red Tractor should do a freedom of information request asking for emails sent by AHDB staff over the last 12 months on the Red Tractor subject, can't legally publish the email but anyone can request their own copy ! ....... I strongly urge all levy payers to do so

A TFF member has done this and the content of these emails will boil your blood !

Everything feared is right there in black and white, More resignations are required I think !

@AM_Arable there is a big story here if you want to tell a reporter to get in touch - this rats nest needs exposing

How would I go about finding these email please?

 

[Clive]

Could these emails not be put up anonymously for all of us to see?????

not legally as far as I'm told

you can however request them yourself under a Freedom of information request directly to the AHDB. - @warksfarmer can outline the process and tell you exactly what to ask for I'm sure, its very simple and straightforward, just an email to the right person

 

[Laggard]

Anyone in doubt of collusion between AHDB, NFU, and Red Tractor should do a freedom of information request asking for emails sent by AHDB staff over the last 12 months on the Red Tractor subject, can't legally publish the email but anyone can request their own copy !

Can’t you tell us in Haiku style?

 

[Feldspar]

I think the question most people need to ask themselves is this, if you found out that Red Tractor, AIC, the flour millers, the NFU and the top brass at AHDB were communicating using joint email groups to produce a coordinated response in a manner designed to combat any legitimate concerns raised by levy payers and Red Tractor members, would you not be a little bit annoyed?

If that does annoy you, perhaps even enrage you, further ask yourselves whether these would be the sort of people that you really want speaking up for you and putting your interests at the fore? I think we have too many people in these higher echelons who seem to be struggling to put their own jobs second and the interests of those they are meant to represent first. High time for a change methinks.

 

[Clive]

I think the question most people need to ask themselves is this, if you found out that Red Tractor, AIC, the NFU and the top brass at AHDB were communicating using joint email groups to produce a coordinated response in a manner designed to combat any legitimate concerns raised by levy payers and Red Tractor members, would you not be a little bit annoyed?

If that does annoying, perhaps even enrage you, further ask yourselves whether these are the sort of people that you really want speaking up for you and putting your interests at the fore? I think we have too many people in these higher echelons who seem to be struggling to put their own jobs second the the interests of those they are meant to represent. High time for a change methinks.

when this becomes not just fear or suspicion or can any longer be dismissed as anti establishment trouble making or conspiracy theory but is confirmed in an email ............

 

[Feldspar]

when this becomes not just fear or suspicion or can any longer be dismissed as anti establishment trouble making or conspiracy theoiry but is confirmed in an email ............

I only suggest that if such a hypothetical worries you, it might be worth an FOI request to find out for yourself what your representatives are up to behind the scenes. Deleting emails probably at the moment...

 

[texelburger]

I think the question most people need to ask themselves is this, if you found out that Red Tractor, AIC, the NFU and the top brass at AHDB were communicating using joint email groups to produce a coordinated response in a manner designed to combat any legitimate concerns raised by levy payers and Red Tractor members, would you not be a little bit annoyed?

If that does annoy you, perhaps even enrage you, further ask yourselves whether these are the sort of people that you really want speaking up for you and putting your interests at the fore? I think we have too many people in these higher echelons who seem to be struggling to put their own jobs second and the interests of those they are meant to represent first. High time for a change methinks.

It seems ,to me,that there is a lot of farmers cash through levies and memberships permeating amongst these companies.They have too much to lose if one was to upset the applecart hence why they all keep in close contact.

 

[Feldspar]

It seems ,to me,that there is a lot of farmers cash through levies and memberships permeating amongst these companies.They have too much to lose if one was to upset the applicart hence why they all keep in close contact.

From what I've seen recently, a lot of them have more in common with each other than they do with the average farmer. They certainly seem to enjoy talking to one another anyway, and not always about the weather.

 

[teslacoils]

Deleting emails probably at the moment...

Unlikely. Because after a deluge of foi requests for exactly the same info, it would be very easy to see if one has received exactly the same info.

 

[SilliamWhale]

So what I'm understanding from your inferences is that the AHDB are sharing information between the NFU, Red Tractor, AIC and others designed to form a unified resistance to any legitimate complaints that farmers have about Red Tractor?

My god this reflects badly on them. I thought they were independent. So Blenky's backstabbers aren't so wrong after all then?

 

[Feldspar]

So what I'm understanding from your inferences is that the AHDB are sharing information between the NFU, Red Tractor, AIC and others designed to form a unified resistance to any legitimate complaints that farmers have about Red Tractor?

My god this reflects badly on them. So Blenky's backstabbers aren't so wrong after all then?

I was simply airing a hypothetical...

 

[stroller]

Collusion? Could what they are doing be illegal….. jail time?
Dictionary definition; Collusion
noun

1. secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others.

 

[tullah]

Collusion? Could what they are doing be illegal….. jail time?
Dictionary definition; Collusion
noun

1. secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others.

I think they are all watching their backs as this spins out and will be snitching on each other to save their own skins

 

[Laggard]

This could get very interesting, I shall light the wood burner and pull up a chair.

 

[Flat 10]

Can someone put it on wiki leaks?
If that’s even still a thing.

 

[Grass And Grain]

This really ought to have a dedicated thread, as info like this won't get seen too much half way down a thread.

 

[MrNoo]

This really ought to have a dedicated thread, as info like this won't get seen too much half way down a thread.

So I guess snippets of the e-mail will be finding their way into the Yellow Peril? Or have they been silenced now by any one of the RT/NFU/ADHB. Surely every levy payer in the land should be made aware of this.

 

[tepapa]

The trouble with this happening is that instead of the AHDB looking to help farmers there's now proof they're colluding against them. The chances of AHDB doing anything to help the levy payers looks like it's getting slimmer.