Are you ready for Brexit

[deleted user 837354]

do you think so ....i reckon he's in quite a tough fix.....trying to keep leavers up north on board while the majority bay for remain....he's already conceded 'confirmatory referendum'

We already know what kind of Britain he wants. He wants maximum turmoil so Labour can sweep to power. The more angry people get, the more people will flock to his kind of politics. Trains on strike/late/overcrowded? Nationalisation. Steel mill collapse, workers sacked and sold for a £1? Nationalisation. That is his kind of politics.

 

[Cowabunga]

actually i was wrong....the only brexits we can have if the law is obeyed are.as i said. customs union but the other of course is no deal brexit

boris' only cares about his own political 'skin' at mo

painful as it is for me as 'leave' voter i must admit i didn't realise the problems it'd cause in ireland....we can't go back to the 'troubles'.....i've to turn my coat

I did actually warn about the Irish and Scottish situation and the danger to the cohesion of the UK right from the very beginning.

 

[Cowabunga]

well, if they put the milk down to 16p, they will need the irish milk to keep in business,cos there will be bugg#r all English milk.

It is predicted to be quite a rapid death for UK livestock farming, yes.

 

[Cowabunga]

It is so typical of the dairies to come out with the usual line about milk prices. It's their get out of jail card. What need have they for marketing, business plans or any kind of actual strategy, if they can't make money they just smash the milk price. It is high time the dairy industry had long term contracts where the price of milk supplied was fixed for the duration, not this you are contracted to us but we can change the price however we like nonsense.

In reality the processors are working to very slim to non-existent margins, underbidding each other for volume sales that they need to remain viable and passing the low and ever lower returns back to the primary producers. Us.
Longer term contracts were tried but the market has become so volatile that such inflexibility could not be sustained and processors had to change to monthly price changes at times to prevent catastrophic losses and business failures such as we have just witnessed this last weekend with the failure of Tomlinson.
You really need to come down to earth into the real world where things are not as comfortable as you assume them to be. Put your own money into a business and run it for a few years rather than tell others from some idealistic viewpoint that would see most livestock farmers destitute.

 

[Muck Spreader]

We already know what kind of Britain he wants. He wants maximum turmoil so Labour can sweep to power. The more angry people get, the more people will flock to his kind of politics. Trains on strike/late/overcrowded? Nationalisation. Steel mill collapse, workers sacked and sold for a £1? Nationalisation. That is his kind of politics.

And isn't BoJo just masterminding this scenario for Corbyn to take power then?

 

[neilo]

In reality the processors are working to very slim to non-existent margins, underbidding each other for volume sales that they need to remain viable and passing the low and ever lower returns back to the primary producers. Us.
Longer term contracts were tried but the market has become so volatile that such inflexibility could not be sustained and processors had to change to monthly price changes at times to prevent catastrophic losses and business failures such as we have just witnessed this last weekend with the failure of Tomlinson.
You really need to come down to earth into the real world where things are not as comfortable as you assume them to be. Put your own money into a business and run it for a few years rather than tell others from some idealistic viewpoint that would see most livestock farmers destitute.

It almost wants a supply control system introduced, to smooth out that volatility. Who would think to introduce such a scheme though.

 

[br jones]

Remind me how many MP's did UKIP get? In the end it was all just a grand illusion agitated no doubt by the ERG .

They got 4 million votes,1 million more than the snp

 

[tinsheet]

Job done apparently!

 

[Cowabunga]

It almost wants a supply control system introduced, to smooth out that volatility. Who would think to introduce such a scheme though.

It would be viewed as being anti-competitive by UK authorities. The current supply is viewed as being controlled by price and that if there is sufficient [or more] supply, then the price is certainly sufficient to maintain this situation. Which is hard to argue against to people that have a good hourly salary with a future pension and 35 hour week, working in some government office.

 

[Muck Spreader]

They got 4 million votes,1 million more than the snp

Yes, depressing isn't it, but at least people now see them for what they are. Although I am not sure what the SNP hast to do with it as they only stand in Scotland.

 

[farmerm]

It is a miracle BoJo and the EU have agreed a deal!! Except it has immediately been rejected by the DUP.... Without the DUP and several other MPs who's vote will be influence by the DUP there just wont be the numbers to get it voted though on Saturday. Borris now has 24hours to buy the DUP's vote, they have him over a barrel with his pants pulled down. What happens next is still anybody's guess maybe the DUP are going to take some big bribes or it will be an extension and another referendum

 

[bobk]

It is a miracle BoJo and the EU have agreed a deal!! Except it has immediately been rejected by the DUP.... Without the DUP and several other MPs who's vote will be influence by the DUP there just wont be the numbers to get it voted though on Saturday. Borris now has 24hours to buy the DUP's vote, they have him over a barrel with his pants pulled down. What happens next is still anybody's guess maybe the DUP are going to take some big bribes or it will be an extension and another referendum

Tail wagging the dog

 

[som farmer]

if you can't get agreement for the border, by either side, surely that would mean a hard border, if we came out without an agreement ? As that is what no-one wants, and Ireland admits it will seriously hurt their economy, I find it difficult to see the problem, I expect Ireland is after re-unification, but even they must see that won't happen, or in the unlikely event it did, the 'troubles' would restart. At their financial cost, looks quite good...…..

 

[czechmate]

It is a miracle BoJo and the EU have agreed a deal!! Except it has immediately been rejected by the DUP.... Without the DUP and several other MPs who's vote will be influence by the DUP there just wont be the numbers to get it voted though on Saturday. Borris now has 24hours to buy the DUP's vote, they have him over a barrel with his pants pulled down. What happens next is still anybody's guess maybe the DUP are going to take some big bribes or it will be an extension and another referendum

Stephan Kinnock was saying last night he would consider voting for it (he hadn’t of course seen it at the time), there may be other labour voters?

 

[bobk]

Stephan Kinnock was saying last night he would consider voting for it (he hadn’t of course seen it at the time), there may be other labour voters?

There's 19 of them

 

[Derrick Hughes]

If they dont vote this deal though now they want hanging the lot of them . We have our cake to eat . The backstop that could never go has gone
Boris as done what they all said could not be done

 

[czechmate]

There's 19 of them

Could be a couple of hundred labour vote...

 

[DRC]

If they dont vote this deal though now they want hanging the lot of them . We have our cake to eat . The backstop that could never go has gone
Boris as done what they all said could not be done

Boris has done what he said he’d never do. A border in the Irish Sea

 

[fgc325j]

It is a miracle BoJo and the EU have agreed a deal!! Except it has immediately been rejected by the DUP.... Without the DUP and several other MPs who's vote will be influence by the DUP there just wont be the numbers to get it voted though on Saturday. Borris now has 24hours to buy the DUP's vote, they have him over a barrel with his pants pulled down. What happens next is still anybody's guess maybe the DUP are going to take some big bribes or it will be an extension and another referendum

Maybe somebody should remind the DUP that, according to the polls , Boris will have a healthy
majority if an election was called, and would not need their help in Parliament.
Let's face the facts - the only reason the DUP are so powerful is due to Theresa May, remember her!,
going against advice given to her, and calling a general election which resulted with the present
situation with the DUP holding sway. Until Corbyn gets into power, them TM will probably be the worst
PM this century.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Boris has done what he said he’d never do. A border in the Irish Sea

Its customs checks in a port . Wow . !!!