Bale Trailer

[casper74]

Can anyone recommend anyone who makes bale trailers from wagon trailers? I think there is someone up in the north east who does them.
TIA

 

[bobajob]

Gardiner trailers?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Can anyone recommend anyone who makes bale trailers from wagon trailers? I think there is someone up in the north east who does them.
TIA

John alderson of whitton? He’s retired now though

 

[KennyO]

Gardiner trailers?

Don't think they do now.

 

[Nearly]

Almost any fabricator will clag a bit of box under one.
Even I have a few that I've done for myself.
One close to @Spud

 

[Extreme Optimist]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/cate.../Hancock-Trailer-Conversions-271014196709768/

 

[Spud]

Almost any fabricator will clag a bit of box under one.
One close to @Spud

www.barracloughengineering.co.uk Absolutely top fella in every respect - the red triaxle flat on his home page is mine - a better trailer does not exist.

 

[Rowland]

32ft Bale / flat Trailer re-plated for road use. | eBay

<p>32 ft bale trailer on air brakes , replated, can be fitted with mini super singles and hydraulic brakes , led lights , strap box , number plate holder and removable rear bale rack , fully refurbished and re sprayed , 6mm steel headboard 25tonne rated drawbar and 17 tonne axle capacity...

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[DrDunc]

Why bodge an arctic into to tractor trailer?

There's far lighter, purpose built, longer lasting options from Marshall, bailey, heron, Stewart etc etc etc that don't cost much more (I bought a marvelous Marshall when faced with the same conundrum last year)

 

[benny6910]

This is a Baraclough trailer well made and a good bloke to deal with

 

[Drillman]

32ft Bale / flat Trailer re-plated for road use. | eBay

<p>32 ft bale trailer on air brakes , replated, can be fitted with mini super singles and hydraulic brakes , led lights , strap box , number plate holder and removable rear bale rack , fully refurbished and re sprayed , 6mm steel headboard 25tonne rated drawbar and 17 tonne axle capacity...

www.ebay.co.uk

They look good trailers and not daft money

 

[Drillman]

Why bodge an arctic into to tractor trailer?

There's far lighter, purpose built, longer lasting options from Marshall, bailey, heron, Stewart etc etc etc that don't cost much more (I bought a marvelous Marshall when faced with the same conundrum last year)

Why not? plenty folks out there who looking to be doing better and better jobs of the conversions nowadays. And they offer a useful saving.

Have u priced a 32ft flat trailer on commercial axles with air brakes recently? There not cheap! Especially if all you need them for is bale carting in summer!

More and more tractors nowadays have air brakes on them so can run trailers on air. I’m thinking of going down that route myself next time as we have a tractor with air now.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Why bother bodging a drawbar onto a perfectly good artic trailer [emoji57] just put a dolly in the front and make it far more manoeuvrable than a 32/40ft pole trailer

 

[Tarw Coch]

Why bother bodging a drawbar onto a perfectly good artic trailer [emoji57] just put a dolly in the front and make it far more manoeuvrable than a 32/40ft pole trailer

Didn’t think VOSA liked such things otherwise I agree.
I’m sure it can be done legally but you may well get unwanted attention none the less.
I’m all for folk using safe and legal trailers but I wouldn’t want to make myself a target for getting pulled be it in a tractor or any other vehicle,

 

[Andrew]

Why bodge an arctic into to tractor trailer?

There's far lighter, purpose built, longer lasting options from Marshall, bailey, heron, Stewart etc etc etc that don't cost much more (I bought a marvelous Marshall when faced with the same conundrum last year)

We have 2 proper trailers, the 3rd was a stepframe artic cut down. The artic twists a lot more and is not as stable. I did do a ‘proper’ job, so it cost a fair bit, I wouldn’t have done it if we didn’t already have the trailer, especially if loading high with square bales.

Didn’t think VOSA liked such things otherwise I agree.
I’m sure it can be done legally but you may well get unwanted attention none the less.
I’m all for folk using safe and legal trailers but I wouldn’t want to make myself a target for getting pulled be it in a tractor or any other vehicle,

They are legal and fit into 2 categories:

1) Standard trailer. The maximum deck length is 12m. As the dolly is a separate trailer it must have brakes, as must the artic. They must be linked together and applied at the same time.

2) Composite trailer. The maximum deck length is 14.04m and the dolly need not have brakes. To fit into the category of ‘composite trailer’ it must be separable ‘only by means of a garage operation’. Probably the best way is to bolt the 5th wheel catch up and remove the landing legs.

In either situation the trailer must of course have all the necessary lights, decent tyres, number plate, and the maximum gross weight is 18.29t.
So they’re OK if you’re carrying round bales or have a low bridge, if not you can carry more payload with a shorter, lighter trailer.

 

[Tarw Coch]

We have 2 proper trailers, the 3rd was a stepframe artic cut down. The artic twists a lot more and is not as stable. I did do a ‘proper’ job, so it cost a fair bit, I wouldn’t have done it if we didn’t already have the trailer, especially if loading high with square bales.




They are legal and fit into 2 categories:

1) Standard trailer. The maximum deck length is 12m. As the dolly is a separate trailer it must have brakes, as must the artic. They must be linked together and applied at the same time.

2) Composite trailer. The maximum deck length is 14.04m and the dolly need not have brakes. To fit into the category of ‘composite trailer’ it must be separable ‘only by means of a garage operation’. Probably the best way is to bolt the 5th wheel catch up and remove the landing legs.

In either situation the trailer must of course have all the necessary lights, decent tyres, number plate, and the maximum gross weight is 18.29t.
So they’re OK if you’re carrying round bales or have a low bridge, if not you can carry more payload with a shorter, lighter trailer.

Yes, I was aware it could be done legally allthough not up on the details.
Unfortunately not everyone does it legally and it just seems you’re making yourself a target for VOSA plus as you point out you will have a heavy trailer which can’t be legally loaded to its maximum.

 

[Rowland]

They look good trailers and not daft money

Don’t know much about them . Crop up on my eBay searches quite often. Seams to do a few a year.

 

[quattro]

We have 2 proper trailers, the 3rd was a stepframe artic cut down. The artic twists a lot more and is not as stable. I did do a ‘proper’ job, so it cost a fair bit, I wouldn’t have done it if we didn’t already have the trailer, especially if loading high with square bales.




They are legal and fit into 2 categories:

1) Standard trailer. The maximum deck length is 12m. As the dolly is a separate trailer it must have brakes, as must the artic. They must be linked together and applied at the same time.

2) Composite trailer. The maximum deck length is 14.04m and the dolly need not have brakes. To fit into the category of ‘composite trailer’ it must be separable ‘only by means of a garage operation’. Probably the best way is to bolt the 5th wheel catch up and remove the landing legs.

In either situation the trailer must of course have all the necessary lights, decent tyres, number plate, and the maximum gross weight is 18.29t.
So they’re OK if you’re carrying round bales or have a low bridge, if not you can carry more payload with a shorter, lighter trailer.

Going by your composite trailer I’ve a dolly fastened upto a bulker with legs removed used mostly for leading off combine on farm/tracks or round grain store
So if took dog clip off 5 wheel and put a bolt in instead
It would be legal on roads it has lights and brakes on trailer but not on dolly??

 

[Andrew]

Going by your composite trailer I’ve a dolly fastened upto a bulker with legs removed used mostly for leading off combine on farm/tracks or round grain store
So if took dog clip off 5 wheel and put a bolt in instead
It would be legal on roads it has lights and brakes on trailer but not on dolly??

The definition of composite trailer is a “trailer that can be separated only by means of a garage operation”.
How you and VOSA interpret that is up to you. Missing landing legs only makes it a garage operation to reconnect the two.

No brakes or lights needed on the dolly as long as I THINK half? of the axles of the entire unit are braked. If it’s a single axle dolly and twin / tri axle trailer, and all the trailer is braked that’s ok.
Remember the weight limit though.

 

[Mark C]

I bought a James Barraclough 28 foot trailer last year. Agree it’s a strong conversion for the money. However I was disappointed that the air bags weren’t replaced with the springs like the Hancock conversions are. Airbags just chopped off and blocks welded in their place. There is some oscillation but the ‘suspension’ clanks and bangs worse than a normal steel suspended trailer. When the trailer is on its stand the back wheels are almost in the air and where the rear axle was gassed off it was never ground off smooth , just painted over. If you got under it and grabbed the chassis in the wrong place you’d slice your hand open.