Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[livestock 1]

Winters at Clickham I think

 

[Old Tip]

Is that Nicholson and Holdsworths yard?

Beef or Lamb ?

 

[livestock 1]

Beef or Lamb ?

Lamb is at Clickham I think

 

[Old Tip]

Lamb is at Clickham I think[/QUOTE)
Near Dufton

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Any report on Newark yesterday?
Nothing on their website.

 

[willy]

• Any report on Newark yesterday?
  Nothing on their website.

  
  I would say prices back, but there where more sheep than ever before so I have been told.

 

[cattleman123]

A large finsher will know what cattle he has coming fit in the next 5/6 weeks and thus will be able to know if they are below the numbers needed to meet their contract numbers.

Some places will only require they are on farm for 21 days.

As for the prices, those on contracts/ finish large numbers will get better prices than say someone only sending cattle once a month.

As for the animal 1 day under 12 months that you picked up, the reason Tesco ( or whoever was the buyer ) couldn't use the meat from that animal is because it was under 12 months old and therefore is classed as veal.

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  I would say prices back, but there where more sheep than ever before so I have been told.

The problem is that sheep are doing too well...lots of hogs hitting 46/8 kg easily this year...chatting to a guy yeaterday he predicts a shortage of proper export hogs,i consider its the fault of the breeders,they breed massive rams which are then tupped to big ewes..everyone wants size...hence these hogs are not fit until they are out of spec,buying the smaller end as I do I often get the older guys say to me that they will never make a sheep....then I hear they cant sell theres I wonder why.

 

[andybk]

The problem is that sheep are doing too well...lots of hogs hitting 46/8 kg easily this year...chatting to a guy yeaterday he predicts a shortage of proper export hogs,i consider its the fault of the breeders,they breed massive rams which are then tupped to big ewes..everyone wants size...hence these hogs are not fit until they are out of spec,buying the smaller end as I do I often get the older guys say to me that they will never make a sheep....then I hear they cant sell theres I wonder why.

absolutely agree , trouble is the misconception that size equals growth rate, sorry it doesnt ! it means a longer growth curve as you point out , unless you are breeding small ewes , moderate size good shaped rams are more effective of achieving a high % in the right weight bracket finished on time

 

[gone up the hill]

The problem is that sheep are doing too well...lots of hogs hitting 46/8 kg easily this year...chatting to a guy yeaterday he predicts a shortage of proper export hogs,i consider its the fault of the breeders,they breed massive rams which are then tupped to big ewes..everyone wants size...hence these hogs are not fit until they are out of spec,buying the smaller end as I do I often get the older guys say to me that they will never make a sheep....then I hear they cant sell theres I wonder why.

Dec born suck lambs are now upto 34 kilos already.... haven't had any weather check yet like last year but that could easily change!

In other news, what were the couples making yesterday?

 

[Woolless]

The problem is that sheep are doing too well...lots of hogs hitting 46/8 kg easily this year...chatting to a guy yeaterday he predicts a shortage of proper export hogs,i consider its the fault of the breeders,they breed massive rams which are then tupped to big ewes..everyone wants size...hence these hogs are not fit until they are out of spec,buying the smaller end as I do I often get the older guys say to me that they will never make a sheep....then I hear they cant sell theres I wonder why.

Let them get on with it!

 

[cattleman123]

Dec born suck lambs are now upto 34 kilos already.... haven't had any weather check yet like last year but that could easily change!

In other news, what were the couples making yesterday?

Iwas told a bit better than last week..but still low...why...killers are so cheap

 

[neilo]

The problem is that sheep are doing too well...lots of hogs hitting 46/8 kg easily this year...chatting to a guy yeaterday he predicts a shortage of proper export hogs,i consider its the fault of the breeders,they breed massive rams which are then tupped to big ewes..everyone wants size...hence these hogs are not fit until they are out of spec,buying the smaller end as I do I often get the older guys say to me that they will never make a sheep....then I hear they cant sell theres I wonder why.

The fault doesn’t lie with the ram breeders, but of those that continue to bid up on those types of rams, and big, framey ewes to put them on.
The ram breeders (or a lot of them) are ultimately just supplying that demand.

 

[Old Tip]

The fault doesn’t lie with the ram breeders, but of those that continue to bid up on those types of rams, and big, framey ewes to put them on.
The ram breeders (or a lot of them) are ultimately just supplying that demand.

I think this is why the Beltex is growing in popularity despite its many issues. Folk have been tempted to keep bigger breeding ewes as cull ewe prices over the last few years have been very good. Crossed with a Suffolk or Texal the lambs out of these ewes never seem to get finish on them till they are fifty kilo plus without feed at an early age.
To me an average sized ewe which is reasonabley prolific but cheap to keep crossed with a Chary is a much better option.
Same with sucklers why keep a big cow and then have to crops it with a Blue, cheaper to keep a big bull than fifty big cows and a small bull

 

[harperfarmer]

Crossed with a Suffolk or Texal the lambs out of these ewes never seem to get finish on them till they are fifty kilo plus without feed at an early age

This is why I think the Suffolk x ewe is the best for earlier lambing (Jan/Feb) to give those growthy lambs that are always going to be creep fed and killed from 10/12 weeks old. If we were to lamb at any other time and not necessarily feed the lambs hard i wouldnt dream of keeping a Suffolk x. Big and hungry but well suited to our system.

 

[Greythundercloudys]

Good store hoggs 65+, not many about, and wee r ubbishy ones 40/50, grit ewes 2/3 crop scanned twins April lambing 100, singles 80. Not dear if you have time and money.

 

[DRC]

Would anyone buy texel yearlings that were in lamb to a texel . Seems a recipe for disaster to me. Ok if you like pulling lambs, or am I wrong .
I know someone with 90 he wants to sell due to illness . I know he had to lamb most of them as hogs. Why didn’t he put a Charolais on them?

 

[andybk]

Rang NSA over teeth issue , they know as much as us , government is going to announce it when ready , which they keep saying is anytime soon , bit like the BPS a few years ago i expect probably announced around 1st july .

 

[Shebb90]

Had a pen of stores in Exeter today. Miss fit bunch mostly bought sub 25kg a while back.

All 42kg now or there abouts which is ok but a bit if flesh on them.

Made £75.50.

Got a nice pen of char and Texal cross to come in Monday at 44kg. Time me will tell if they should have been in today as well.


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How you get on a Exeter today

 

[neilo]

Would anyone buy texel yearlings that were in lamb to a texel . Seems a recipe for disaster to me. Ok if you like pulling lambs, or am I wrong .
I know someone with 90 he wants to sell due to illness . I know he had to lamb most of them as hogs. Why didn’t he put a Charolais on them?

To be fair, there are Texels and there are Texels. Plenty round here putting Texel rams over Texel x Mule ewes, producing 3/4 terminal lambs that sell well. Some don't seem to count their work either though.

 

[Skintagain]

To be fair, there are Texels and there are Texels. Plenty round here putting Texel rams over Texel x Mule ewes, producing 3/4 terminal lambs that sell well. Some don't seem to count their work either though.

Beltex or charolais onto texel mules for me. Keep them separate and charolais goto onto better lower down land where they thrive and beltex onto rougher higher ground running up to 1300’. Seems to work for us