Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
I'm in Wales too, and not heard of it either. Maybe they are only informing farmers in Devon, not those it might effect? :rolleyes:
Me neither 🤷🏻‍♂️
I know a few years ago a lot of milk buyers stopped them shooting B&W’s even when they were locked down with TB, minimum age before sold dead now (42 days springs to mind?)
Havn’t heard they are going to stop feeding milk though, they’ll stop them giving colostrum before long 🤦🏻‍♂️
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Me neither 🤷🏻‍♂️
I know a few years ago a lot of milk buyers stopped them shooting B&W’s even when they were locked down with TB, minimum age before sold dead now (42 days springs to mind?)
Havn’t heard they are going to stop feeding milk though, they’ll stop them giving colostrum before long 🤦🏻‍♂️

....or it may be another made up 'fact' of course. ;)
 
Location
Devon
I've not heard this one, but the Welsh government are trying their best to scupper the job and proposing that the current 2 tests and your clear to move isn't good enough and will need a third test to be able to move.

Cant see how feeding calves powder instead of raw milk will prevent tb, as the cows still left would have passed the main test? It's not cow shite but it smells of something!
Yes they are talking about banning raw milk in wales, who knows if it will ever come to anything or not!

Calves can catch TB from raw milk if the cow has TB lesions in the udder, if she is very badly affected with TB then they will sometimes not react to the skin test ( which the Welsh are also talking about stopping using the current skin test for cattle TB testing )

Small dairy herd near me a few years ago was feeding the milk from a high cell count cow to their dairy heifer replacements, tested the calves after she was found to have TB in the udder ) and out of 26 ish small calves they took about 24 as reactors and i think from memory they mostly came back with TB lesions.
 

ford4000

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
north Wales
My weekly report for where I have been this week is this
Monday mold very similar beef and cows
Ludlow hell of a trade clean and cows
Market Drayton cows Monday night hell of a trade
Tuesday Shrewsbury cows similar
Wednesday market Drayton beef and bulls absolutely off the clock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday gisburn cows very dear clean and bulls very dear it’s still all good atm !!!!
It’s sell live and thrive at the minute people 👍👍👍👍!
Sounds like I should move from selling beef in Mold to market Drayton next week!!
 
Location
Devon
Not at all, but I have an inkling that I may speak to more farmers in Wales than you do, and to more people that may be involved in such decisions. ;)
But hey, I dare say they chose to leak the info out ringside at Sedgemoor. (y)
Never heard anything about it at Sedge.

If you bothered to do some reading/ research you would have found out about it yourself. Thou of course you are too busy sniping away to be doing something constructive like that!

Quite often with things like this possible milk ban farmers on the ground who will be the most affected are the last to know anything about it!
 

Celt83

Member
Livestock Farmer
Yes they are talking about banning raw milk in wales, who knows if it will ever come to anything or not!

Calves can catch TB from raw milk if the cow has TB lesions in the udder, if she is very badly affected with TB then they will sometimes not react to the skin test ( which the Welsh are also talking about stopping using the current skin test for cattle TB testing )

Small dairy herd near me a few years ago was feeding the milk from a high cell count cow to their dairy heifer replacements, tested the calves after she was found to have TB in the udder ) and out of 26 ish small calves they took about 24 as reactors and i think from memory they mostly came back with TB lesions.
How did they find lesions in the udder? Did she pass the skin test? I've never heard of this test by any dairy farmer, and I feel like I've parachuted behind enemy line as I'm surrounded by them!
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
I charged £190/lamb last year for organic, vac packed etc, similar lambs made £85 in the autumn dw and £125 in March. I was going off DW price + kill/pack + bonus, Everyone seemed happy with it and that was last year!
Only costs me £30 killing, cutting and vac pac so a 20kg carcass at £140 is still £110 I’m happy enough with that really but £190 a lamb would get me a little happier lol
 

thorpe

Member
Never heard anything about it at Sedge.

If you bothered to do some reading/ research you would have found out about it yourself. Thou of course you are too busy sniping away to be doing something constructive like that!

Quite often with things like this possible milk ban farmers on the ground who will be the most affected are the last to know anything about it!
the handbags are coming out!
 
Location
Devon
How did they find lesions in the udder? Did she pass the skin test? I've never heard of this test by any dairy farmer, and I feel like I've parachuted behind enemy line as I'm surrounded by them!
No idea if this cow ref the heifer calves passed the TB test or not.

Certainly the case that if a cow is really badly affected by TB they will NOT react to the skin test.

I am no expert on TB, so i suggest you get in contact with a TFF member who is and that is @matthew
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
How did they find lesions in the udder? Did she pass the skin test? I've never heard of this test by any dairy farmer, and I feel like I've parachuted behind enemy line as I'm surrounded by them!

I heard of a case (from DEFRA staff, not mart gossip) where a lot of young calves were going down with TB at their first test, but the cows were clear. They couldn't work out what the source was. Eventually the farmer culled an old high cell count cow, who's milk had been kept out for calves more often than not, and she showed up as having an udder riddled with TB. She had passed umpteen skin tests herself, but they reckoned the TB was walled up in the udder.

Very rare, but it can happen.
 

Celt83

Member
Livestock Farmer
No idea if this cow ref the heifer calves passed the TB test or not.

Certainly the case that if a cow is really badly affected by TB they will NOT react to the skin test.

I am no expert on TB, so i suggest you get in contact with a TFF member who is and that is @matthew

I heard of a case (from DEFRA staff, not mart gossip) where a lot of young calves were going down with TB at their first test, but the cows were clear. They couldn't work out what the source was. Eventually the farmer culled an old high cell count cow, who's milk had been kept out for calves more often than not, and she showed up as having an udder riddled with TB. She had passed umpteen skin tests herself, but they reckoned the TB was walled up in the udder.

Very rare, but it can happen.
Lurn something new everyday.

I knew you could find lesions at different parts of the body but never heard of it in the udder. My grandparents and uncles all drink raw milk from the tank as they hate bottled milk. Does make you think!
 

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