BG 2020

[Adeptandy]

Is it just mine, or it it earlier this year ?

 

[teslacoils]

Yup. Early.

 

[turbo]

Your not on your own but thank god it’s only 12 acres of late sown wheat that didn’t get a pre em because we had an inch of rain the day after planting and 2 inches a week for the next 3 weeks but it is very easy to hand rouge this year as it very shallow rooted

 

[shakerator]

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Is it just mine, or it it earlier this year ?

nice looking crop

 

[Adeptandy]

nice looking crop

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Best part of the field, and its a headland the rest of the 40 acre field wasn't good enough to show the BG up on the camera, if there had been more soil moisture it would be Glypho'd and another crop

 

[Patrick JE]

Yup. Early.

16 April, near Howden, East Yorks.

 

[teslacoils]

I've enough of it in the grass......but that's why it's grass. Let's see how it likes 4 years of competitive silage grasses and a winter nibbled by sheep.

 

[Steevo]

Had some popping out into head three weeks back in October drilled wheat sadly.

It's interesting to note the various successes/failures:

1. DD'd fields (mid Oct) with no pre-em due to weather, only Hatra post em in the spring = relatively poor control. That said, a blocked nozzle shows as a line right the way up the field so population is/was high.
2. DD'd field (mid Oct) with winter pre-em and Hatra in spring - almost perfect control. Much harder to spot a plant.
3. Ploughed fields (mid Nov) with no pre-em just Hatra in spring - overall good control apart from very high pressure areas which are same as (1). A trial plot (accidental spray miss!) shows the blackgrass pressure was high so control from Hatra is impressively good. Also illustrates how much the Hatra does on BLW - not a charlock plant to be found other than in that spray miss.

Ideally aiming for no second wheats but last autumn/winter rainfall knocked that idea on the head sadly.

I know we shouldn't rely on chemical in a can to do the job....but personally I've found that pre-em f/b Hatra (pref pre-Christmas) gives a clean field that cultural control alone could not manage. All tools in the armoury are required.

If at all possible I will ensure all crops have a pre-em in future years, even if that means I'm likely to make a right mess of the tramlines spraying it. I've learnt this year that it's actually worth doing so.

 

[Brisel]

I've got wheat at the booting stage with flag leaves out for a week. This is early for most years. so not unreasonable to expect blackgrass out in ear too.

Blackgrass is a marsh land plant that loves moisture. I'd say September to March suited it nicely.

 

[HarryB97]

Mowed 70 acres of a first year ley established last September, It may look terrible now but will make fantastic silage. Several silage cuts and some passes with the topper and by next year it’ll be near enough spotless like the second picture

 

[Neddy flanders]

Mowed 70 acres of a first year ley established last September, It may look terrible now but will make fantastic silage. Several silage cuts and some passes with the topper and by next year it’ll be near enough spotless like the second pictureView attachment 877056View attachment 877055

Where did you get that dog? spitting image of one I used to have, same breeder?

 

[Flat 10]

Had some popping out into head three weeks back in October drilled wheat sadly.

It's interesting to note the various successes/failures:

1. DD'd fields (mid Oct) with no pre-em due to weather, only Hatra post em in the spring = relatively poor control. That said, a blocked nozzle shows as a line right the way up the field so population is/was high.
2. DD'd field (mid Oct) with winter pre-em and Hatra in spring - almost perfect control. Much harder to spot a plant.
3. Ploughed fields (mid Nov) with no pre-em just Hatra in spring - overall good control apart from very high pressure areas which are same as (1). A trial plot (accidental spray miss!) shows the blackgrass pressure was high so control from Hatra is impressively good. Also illustrates how much the Hatra does on BLW - not a charlock plant to be found other than in that spray miss.

Ideally aiming for no second wheats but last autumn/winter rainfall knocked that idea on the head sadly.

I know we shouldn't rely on chemical in a can to do the job....but personally I've found that pre-em f/b Hatra (pref pre-Christmas) gives a clean field that cultural control alone could not manage. All tools in the armoury are required.

If at all possible I will ensure all crops have a pre-em in future years, even if that means I'm likely to make a right mess of the tramlines spraying it. I've learnt this year that it's actually worth doing so.View attachment 876879

Why on earth did you not add residual to hatra?

 

[Steevo]

Why on earth did you not add residual to hatra?

Not sure it’s very legal in late March, early April!

 

[Flat 10]

Not sure it’s very legal in late March, early April!

Most of mine had some form of legal residual concoction in early feb followed by the hatra 6 weeks later. Don’t normally bother with the SU mixed results here but a tricky year so definitely required.

 

[Steevo]

Most of mine had some form of legal residual concoction in early feb followed by the hatra 6 weeks later. Don’t normally bother with the SU mixed results here but a tricky year so definitely required.

Sadly I couldn’t get on the ground before end of March and even then I made a right mess.

 

[Steevo]

I will certainly be more minded to risk making a mess in the autumn now - it's surprising how much of that has repaired (on the top at least) over the winter. I'm very pleased with the control from it too.

 

[Warnesworth]

Had some popping out into head three weeks back in October drilled wheat sadly.

It's interesting to note the various successes/failures:

1. DD'd fields (mid Oct) with no pre-em due to weather, only Hatra post em in the spring = relatively poor control. That said, a blocked nozzle shows as a line right the way up the field so population is/was high.
2. DD'd field (mid Oct) with winter pre-em and Hatra in spring - almost perfect control. Much harder to spot a plant.
3. Ploughed fields (mid Nov) with no pre-em just Hatra in spring - overall good control apart from very high pressure areas which are same as (1). A trial plot (accidental spray miss!) shows the blackgrass pressure was high so control from Hatra is impressively good. Also illustrates how much the Hatra does on BLW - not a charlock plant to be found other than in that spray miss.

Ideally aiming for no second wheats but last autumn/winter rainfall knocked that idea on the head sadly.

I know we shouldn't rely on chemical in a can to do the job....but personally I've found that pre-em f/b Hatra (pref pre-Christmas) gives a clean field that cultural control alone could not manage. All tools in the armoury are required.

If at all possible I will ensure all crops have a pre-em in future years, even if that means I'm likely to make a right mess of the tramlines spraying it. I've learnt this year that it's actually worth doing so.View attachment 876879

What water rate, speed and nozzles do you apply your pre-em at/ with Andrew?

 

[Castlemaine]

Lesson learned, if the choice is making a mess pre em spraying or no pre em spraying , I’ll be making a mess

 

[snarling bee]

We made a mess, and I'm glad we did.

 

[Shutesy]

Lesson learned, if the choice is making a mess pre em spraying or no pre em spraying , I’ll be making a mess

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