- Location
- Limousin, France
Dont forget the ammo box
Boris a joke
- Thread starter Exfarmer
- Start date
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Dont forget the ammo box
hard to believe our new friend is allowed out with anything more than a water pistol
- Location
- Limousin, France
The syntax suggests a multiple account. Or split personality.hard to believe our new friend is allowed out with anything more than a water pistol
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
- Location
- Limousin, France
Weirdos and Wannabes
Nothing new about weirdoes on here (sigh)
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
oh yes, plenty of them
And nairdowells
- Location
- Limousin, France
Oh there's plenty on dole . Some have very large farms.
- Location
- Bay of Plenty NZ
50 years ago the UK was the āsick man of Europeā Back to the future.
- Location
- Bay of Plenty NZ
The Southern Hemisphere may help you out and throw a few crumbs your way.
- Location
- Bay of Plenty NZ
Would that be the same lazy Europeans who work in your care homes and pick your vegetables?
5.5 million stayed , so it can't be that bad , maybe not good enough for bitter ex pats though , the one's we're missing are the students and that's because of covid
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
No what has happened is a declining birthrate meaning fewer workers entering the system an aging population still requiring goods and services and a socially mobile population who would rather go to work in an office than kill pigs or pick vegetables. ( blame all the grammar school tories Heath, Thatcher and Major for that). Europe has exactly the same problems however with freedom of movement of labour itās less pronounced.
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
And the birthrate has fallen off a cliff since 2009, with family homes only affordable if you dont have a family!!!
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
I donāt think itās quite just that. I was growing courgettes, leeks and pumpkins and I witnessed the change myself, at the beginning it was a pleasure to work with young locals, students doing holiday jobs for example. But it just became depressing being around their attitude- āoh, this is boringā, āthis makes my back acheā, āitās too coldā, āitās too hotā, and my favourite āthere must be a machine to do thisā
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
And an aging population many of whom are well pensioned a the generations that worked through the 1970s in civil service/public sector and the large corporations have healthy retirement income many over the age of 60 or slightly less have not intention of doing any work wheras 50 or more years ago the manual worker didn't retire until late 60s and then died two yeas later.
- Location
- LINCOLNSHIRE/KENYA
Itās always been like that hasnāt it. People moved away from farm work because it was low paid, repetetive and physically demanding. I havenāt brought my kids up to muck out pigs or hoe beet.
Conveniently so. I canāt remember any 80 year old ex farm workers when i was a kid in the ā70s. Itās only as work got easier that theyāve started to live longer.
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I can remember 70 and 80 year old ex farm workers Lowland as they were my uncles. (The maternal side of my family traditionally live well into their 80s unless they smoked!) But they lived in rented council houses/bungalows and lived off the state pension. No pension for farm workers in those days. Some had some meagre insurance policies -- through the Oddfellows Societies. They thought kindly of their employers - the local large farmers, some of whom grandsons I come across in my work today.
They gardened. Went to Church / Chapel Sundays. Took the Daily Mirror. And would rarely leave the village. They lived quiet contented lives within those means. Their children - my cousins all went to village school. And were encouraged by those Uncles and Aunts to do well at School. And pretty much all my cousins moved on in the late 1970s early 80s to University and other further education / apprenticeships to learn a trade. And thus my whole family who were farm workers have left the Agricultural industry. Only I remain attached to Agriculture as an ancillary worker in the advisory sphere - and then only because I didn't look beyond the letter A in the UCAS handbook to see there were other Degree courses than Agriculture and I liked driving tractors. I have never heard any of my cousins or their children lament the family leaving Agriculture. They still live in the Fens. And just like me and most rural villagers farming is something that goes on around them but has little impact apart from muddy roads and inconvenient tractors.
Homes became unaffordable because more than 300,000 a year were entering the UK whilst only around 100,000 new houses a year were being built so supply & demand forced up prices & rents, because of Covid & for now staycations a correction has yet to be felt but with endless new estates being built whilst fewer migrants are coming pretty soon there is very likely to be a pretty dramatic correction.
To a large extent investor landlords expecting high rents to continue are artificially keeping prices high for now but sooner or later the unavoidable laws of supply & demand WILL kick in.