BPS 15 payments England

[Drillman]

Well I've rung them again today and got nowhere yet again, I've been told yet again the central team are going to contact me. I was told that in July !, it's to little far to late for me I've called it a day with my claim. I simply can't carry on like this so I will start winding that business up in the morning.

Right is there anyone in any form of authority out there who could help this poor chap out?

The lack of communication in this day and age is totally unacceptable

@RPA

 

[matthew]

Being British and of a certain age , law abiding etc I always used to trust in our civil service to be expert in their field and to do the right thing by and large for the people they serve.

The broken, self serving organisation known as the RPA is a perfect example of how things have changed.

It's no wonder people are turning away from the establishment in their droves as in brexit, the US and soon France!

Can identify with that @Funny Farmer especially the 'certain age' bit.

So this afternoon, in preparation for 'that phone call', I delved into downloads of our 2015 and 2016 claim, Land use parcels and all the other guff RPA have on their website. And lo and behold, no mention of 'Mixed woodland' for this little field, without any trees.
It's labelled as 'Arable' in 2015 and in 2016.
It also has field ID name - as do all our fields on which we claim. But not the woodland, on which we do not.
So when an RPA lady phoned mid afternoon, I was all prepared.

But sadly, she was just making contact.....to tell me I was in the queue of queries. And how long it would take to float to the top, she didn't know, but yes, the 2015 query, now labelled a 'Complaint', would delay the payout of our 2016 payment.

So ain't that just fine and dandy?

Oh, and just to allay your worst fears, not to mention contradicting Mark Grimshaw's assertions to the Audit Committee, " we have many cases like this." (She said)

 

[wasted years]

Right is there anyone in any form of authority out there who could help this poor chap out?

The lack of communication in this day and age is totally unacceptable

@RPA

If TFF , or anyone using it can do anything at all, I would like it to help this man out, whatever the outcome.

 

[matthew]

If TFF , or anyone using it can do anything at all, I would like it to help this man out, whatever the outcome.

I've written 3 tracked, signed for letters - no phone calls. And eventually, when I was getting the run around, copied into my MP and FCN.
That got the carriages moving.
And my gripe is minor to some I've heard of.
But being lied to really gets my goat.

 

[wasted years]

I've written 3 tracked, signed for letters - no phone calls. And eventually, when I was getting the run around, copied into my MP and FCN.
That got the carriages moving.
And my gripe is minor to some I've heard of.
But being lied to really gets my goat.

Yep, can't stand it either.
Beats me how they can get away with this carry on, I don't k now how the @RPA staff can look themselves in the mirror.
Our HLS is 6 weeks late, FFS we have been paid on time for years!

 

[Funny Farmer]

Seems like the way to get them to sit up is by getting your MP involved and or members of the select committee who were plainly misled by MG

 

[matthew]

Seems like the way to get them to sit up is by getting your MP involved and or members of the select committee who were plainly misled by MG

I think that MPs can copy in a constituent's concerns to any select committee member, whereas we would have difficulty unless the member was our own local MP.
Richard Bacon was very vocal on the recent Public Accounts committee meeting. (South Norfolk?)

http://www.parliament.uk/business/c...ment-2015/cap-delivery-progress-review-16-17/

 

[Old Tip]

Yep, can't stand it either.
Beats me how they can get away with this carry on, I don't k now how the @RPA staff can look themselves in the mirror.
Our HLS is 6 weeks late, FFS we have been paid on time for years!

It would seem if you have any Common Land as part of your HLS claim they wont pay till they get the BPS payments on commons sorted, latest news it could be January

 

[glasshouse]

It really is a disgrace, no one in govt has any integrity any more.

 

[Billhook]

Perhaps the Brexit voters who were voting against the "Elite" were also voting against the civil servants who shut themselves away behind an impenetrable wall of "Your call is important to us".
The civil servants with inflation proof salaries and pension plans that the ordinary worker can only dream of. Interfering incompetent busybodies with more power than a court of law meaning that you can be fined for a minor infringement , perhaps catching a 2 metre strip in a careless moment, more money than you would be fined for robbery.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gets-1p-fine-despite-facing-3-years-jail.html

or a mugging

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...rs-can-escape-punishment-by-saying-sorry.html


It would be good if we could just say sorry every time the inspector pulls us up for an infringement

It is bad enough that most farmers are running around all year working harder to earn less, and then they see these overpaid jobsworths just being obstructive or inefficient or both.

By the way I still am waiting for my HLS payment due in May 2015 which now cannot be paid until June 2017, over two years late, due to the Single Annual Crosscheck. Nobody has yet explained to me what the S.A.C. is or why it should cause this delay I have asked on this forum ,the NFU snf the CLA but heard nothing.

Like Wasted Years I was paid on the dot, May 1st and November 1st for the first eight years of the ten year contract and have had zero issues with my work.

 

[llamedos]

By the way I still am waiting for my HLS payment due in May 2015 which now cannot be paid until June 2017, over two years late, due to the Single Annual Crosscheck. Nobody has yet explained to me what the S.A.C. is or why it should cause this delay I have asked on this forum ,the NFU snf the CLA but heard nothing.

This may help explain it, https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...t_data/file/336676/qa-uniform-start-dates.pdf

 

[glasshouse]

When you think what the post war labour govt achieved in 5 yrs, from the nhs to the 47ag act, they must have worked their socks of.
We could do with their like again.

 

[alex04w]

The civil servants with inflation proof salaries

This is an allegation put about by a lot of posters. However the facts are (at least in relation to the Northern Ireland Civil Service):-

………………Pay increase…..CPI…RPI
1 Aug 2010……….3.0…………3.1…4.7
1 Aug 2011……….2.7…………4.5…5.2
1 Aug 2012……….1.0…………2.5…2.9
1 Aug 2013……….1.0…………2.7…3.3
1 Aug 2014……….1.0…………1.5…2.4
1 Aug 2015……….1.0…………0.0…1.1

Total…………..……9.7………..14.3..19.6

The pay increase is the increase of the total pay bill. Some employees will have done better, but against that some will have done worse, to balance it out.

So where is this inflation proof salary?

That is not to say they are not rubbish at their job. I am having a fight with the local Department of Agriculture and they are unbelievable, even to the point of them having broken the law on at least two occasions. Where they have been caught out, they merely say "we are very sorry". Yeah right - lets see you accept that when a farmer breaks a cross compliance rule.

 

[Courier]

And my gripe is minor to some I've heard of.
But being lied to really gets my goat.

 

[Fen Boy]

We received this email from the RPA last week. Replied immediately but we are still waiting for an explanation. Absolutely shocking, our application is correct and water tight.

 

[joe soapy]

Am hearing that where a field has something like a couple of cars or machines in it the whole field has been knocked out, can this be right?

 

[Funny Farmer]

We received this email from the RPA last week. Replied immediately but we are still waiting for an explanation. Absolutely shocking, our application is correct and water tight.

Bad news for you - that's another one they can now claim to have "dealt with"

I would instigate an "official complaint" they have to respond to that or it messes up their kpi targets which they don't like!

 

[Funny Farmer]

Am hearing that where a field has something like a couple of cars or machines in it the whole field has been knocked out, can this be right?

Wouldn't surprise me - they have to find a justification for not paying and right now anything seems fair game.

One of my fields was reduced in size by them, it is completely surrounded by other fields that didn't increase?? When I queried it they said it was my responsibility to check the size of the field. I told them I got the field size off RPA maps - that's no excuse they said you should have checked it yourself - FFS you couldn't make this s#it up !!!!!

 

[Hesston4860s]

We received this email from the RPA last week. Replied immediately but we are still waiting for an explanation. Absolutely shocking, our application is correct and water tight.

Wouldn't hold your breath, I had a similar letter back in July. Like you we replied immediately, not heard a single thing from them since !.
Not that it matters now I've packed up.

 

[Goatherderess]

Grimshaw talking now http://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/4bd1ea23-af60-4388-b7ee-a9575eff7bc3