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yes this is an option, is there no way i could explain to the planners there IS a need for someone on site as we have a steading with 80 cows calving and nobody living there but that it needs to be in my name as the business is joint owned and some of this house money is wifesThe easiest way in rural Scotland is to grab a kit design and take it to the planners. They will visit the farm and if open minded they like if you show them 3 potential plots and ask what one they prefer from a planning point of view.
Don’t go 2 story go 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 ad this is a major obstacle.
Be ready to plan some native trees to soften it too. This was what got mine through.
Took me 1 year from starting to get planning with Tie.
It was greenfield site tho so no old ruins. Like I said before if you have a ruin of some sort then it helps but remember if no tie you are uphill as it’s no different to selling a plot to anyone. If you have to go with a tie then it will have to be in the farms name not yours and paid by the farm so that will be difficult in your situation.
Also avoid renovating a current building as vat will have to be paid. Better to demolish and start fresh from a financial point.
Other option is you sell yours and buy the current farmhouse then parents build one with a tie to the farm then problem solved to an extent
your saying i could get planning for mine with tie then move the tie onto existing farmhouse??Transfer if they put a ag tie on to the original farm house I know of a farmer moved it twice
im trying to avoid a tie as this makes it part of the farm which is joint owned and a lot of this house money is wifes, also makes the house saleable in the future without a tie i wouldnt want to sell parents house as its right next a steadingcan't see that being too hard really, 1 house but 2 families makes it reasonable to ask for a second, the acreage is enough to support 2 families
avoiding a tie might be hard but why does it matter if you are intending to live in it ?
getting a tie lifted is possible so I would probably not argue about it and think about getting it lifted down the line if I ever wanted to sell
yes this is an option, is there no way i could explain to the planners there IS a need for someone on site as we have a steading with 80 cows calving and nobody living there but that it needs to be in my name as the business is joint owned and some of this house money is wifes
Has been done in Wales not even to farm house another propertyyour saying i could get planning for mine with tie then move the tie onto existing farmhouse??
one option ive heard is that because farmhouse has old style septic tank i could upgrade this as part of planning apllication to get the new house has anyone else heard of this?The trouble is if there is a need....it is a need by the farm that this house would be satisfying. Hence a tie of the house to the land/business.
If you built the house, then sold it a year after, there would still be a need again.
I see your predicament however.
I don't think a tie actually ties it to your farm, just means whoever lives in it must make their living from farming or be a retired farmer, no reason why it cant be sold in the future and in this part of the world a tie doesn't seem to have much affect on value.
Quite a few ties i’ve seen in recent years are specific to the farm in question.
However, if the farm can be proven to no longer have a need then the tie can be removed.
That would depend on area don't think the mortgage company's favour tie property's and it is only restricted to someone working in agri not the farmI don't think a tie actually ties it to your farm, just means whoever lives in it must make their living from farming or be a retired farmer, no reason why it cant be sold in the future and in this part of the world a tie doesn't seem to have much affect on value.
yes this is an option, is there no way i could explain to the planners there IS a need for someone on site as we have a steading with 80 cows calving and nobody living there but that it needs to be in my name as the business is joint owned and some of this house money is wifes
I don't think a tie actually ties it to your farm, just means whoever lives in it must make their living from farming or be a retired farmer, no reason why it cant be sold in the future and in this part of the world a tie doesn't seem to have much affect on value.
That would depend on area don't think the mortgage company's favour tie property's and it is only restricted to someone working in agri not the farm
So I could get a tie initially and have it in my own name then try and remove it in the future?An ag tie may tie the occupancy to the specific farm (rather than generic agricultural employment), but that's not the same as ownership being tied to the ownership of the farm. You will still have independent ownership of the house, but naturally the mortgage/resale value is limited due to the tie. It's possible to get the tie removed down the line, but many authorities won't even consider it after less than 10-15 years - I know of one locally where the council fought a 25 year tie being lifted despite the farm named having been dissolved some years prior. The only ways forward for you is to either do a pre app with the council or to get a really good planning consultant on it for you.
Not in scotlandWhat about 'disused' farm buildings under part Q permitted development? They could be anywhere on the farm.
Definitely areThere are no ag ties in Scotland now as far as I’m aware.