- Location
- Somerset UK
Thank you nfu, you've trussed agriculture up like a Christmas turkey, enjoy your 30 pieces of silver.
Buy some lube and brace yourselves, we're all going to be fudged by red tractor
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Thank you nfu, you've trussed agriculture up like a Christmas turkey, enjoy your 30 pieces of silver.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
The whole of that letter raises more questions than it gives answers, what is this level playing field they refer to, level with who/what?
What are these opportunities to boost domestic productivity now we’ve left the EU and how will it benefit farmers?
A typical politicians reply , a lot of good sounding waffle with no details
What are these opportunities to boost domestic productivity now we’ve left the EU and how will it benefit farmers?
A typical politicians reply , a lot of good sounding waffle with no details
- Location
- Somerset UK
Didn't understand that. Does it mean RT will be no longer be voluntary ?
A true level playing field would mean scrapping RT altogether me thinks.
A true level playing field would mean scrapping RT altogether me thinks.
- Location
- Somerset UK
That's how I read it, if you want a subsidy/elms then you will have to be assured, eventually leading to needing formal agriculture qualifications and a licence to farm.
toquark
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The problem with most of these certification schemes is that eventually they never are truly voluntary. They are designed to evolve become "the standard" which has to be met in order to sell your produce and before you know it, your business ends up being run by other people.
A strong union should be fighting against such schemes, not dreaming them up.
A strong union should be fighting against such schemes, not dreaming them up.
And as I've said before this made up b0l1ocks to try and justify red tractor in some small way. Assured here and have had 3 full inspections one ear tags only and one trading standards in about ten years. So about one inspection ever 2 years.
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A license to farm is sadly the path we are all being led down.
I'm in waste management - I have a waste management license
I'm in Haulage - I have a Haulage license
These two mentioned bring value to the table i.e. I can't make money in these industries without these licenses.
A license to farm will bring me NO VALUE whatsoever to my farm.. I just know it, if they can guarantee some value to it then bring it on, whatever. But it won't happen.
They are going to suck the life out of every farmer with more and more BS.
I'm in waste management - I have a waste management license
I'm in Haulage - I have a Haulage license
These two mentioned bring value to the table i.e. I can't make money in these industries without these licenses.
A license to farm will bring me NO VALUE whatsoever to my farm.. I just know it, if they can guarantee some value to it then bring it on, whatever. But it won't happen.
They are going to suck the life out of every farmer with more and more BS.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Our predecessors here were evicted by the war ag for failing to farm productively. This was 8 years after the war had ended when there were still shortages.It wasn’t that you needed a licence to farm but if you fell short you soon knew about it. I think the evictions at that time instilled a fair determination in people here not to make a mess of it, something that persists to this day.
What worries me is that what would be considered a mess back in those days would probably now be considered an environmental focus area and that nowadays you are more likely to be hauled over the coals for running a tidy farm than a rough one. It worries me that modern “policing” of farms could be very subjective and open to pressure from whatever lobby groups.
What worries me is that what would be considered a mess back in those days would probably now be considered an environmental focus area and that nowadays you are more likely to be hauled over the coals for running a tidy farm than a rough one. It worries me that modern “policing” of farms could be very subjective and open to pressure from whatever lobby groups.
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- Lincolnshire
Sounds like if you're not assured then you're bumped up the "please inspect me" list.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I can see all sorts of possible problems if we go much further down the route of RT appointing itself the head of U.K. Agriculture. If there is low uptake of ELMS I can see it becoming a compulsory element of RT and as we can’t to all intents and purposes sell anything without being members of RT then they really can force us to whatever their political masters want us to do, which being grocery industry lead doesn’t bode well at all. It’s just a ticking bomb really. Production should never have got into bed with retail. There should be red lines drawn up and a body that independently stands up for the producer. It’s just no good at all having the job run by the grocery trade and their political chums.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Don’t know. We have had trading standards for the home mix, EA and a couple of RPA swoops even though we have been assured for years. Maybe we are just unlucky.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
The whole thing reminds me of a description of the crusades as explained by my old history teacher. Basically a bunch of hardcases set off for Jerusalem to put right what they thought were wrong things going on there. When they got there they couldn’t actually find a problem …… so they killed them all anyway.
- Location
- Shropshire
Sound like one of your neighbours doesn’t like you
- Location
- Essex
There doesn't seem to be any evidence to support that claim.
Was just my interpretation, DEFRA will have details of assured farms and can carry out some basic compliance checks using information shared with assurance bodies.