By 2045, white America is a minority
- Thread starter Bald Rick
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Simple: Now is the time for white thrash to get breeding.
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Or maybe we need to realise that colour doesn’t matter, stop labelling people by what they look like and accept we are all human?
Hindsight
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I will reply to your post in two ways.
First, well we expect all people living in the UK have British values toward society. SO your question then poses a further question as to whether British values would change as the 'whites' became a minority.
Second, its implicit in your statement that not being in the majority will lead to racial unrest. Is that a given if values are same. If not then it is true racism based purely on individuals being unable to tolerate differences - ie skin colour.
Good initial post. A topic that we all know is relvant.
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No such thing as "British Values". We can't agree on here between plough and drill, so to think that a country has a common or even vaguely similar set of beliefs and standards is naive, I'm afraid.
Hindsight
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Well you would find many of my acquaintances say I am naive, so you have the measure of me! I would hope most if not all people of whichever background could come together with some common principles of decency, and pleasantness to fellow man. But then I begin to sound like the person in the pulpit on Xmas Eve.
Best wishes, from an ever hopeful humanist (of sorts)
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I do believe this too - but it's not a British trait so much as a human one.
Hindsight
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Yes, I maybe conflate the two in my eagerness for folk to be friends and tolerant of each other (my wife excluded! - joke!) regardless of background.
Danllan
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How did it work for you over there?
Yes and no. From a purely philosophical point of view, for you to condemn their existence outright, you must have a pretty fair idea of what they are.
I think there are certainly some values that we could associate more with us than, say, a Spaniard or Greek. Anglo-Celtic would perhaps be a better 'blanket', but I think they could be characterised as Northern European in great part too. That written, I can relate to people from the US, Canada, Oz and NZ more easily and accurately than those from other countries, and for obvious familial and historical reasons.
There seems to be, no, there is a fashion for some to try and say we are all the same while, in a simultaneous self-contradiction, claim that identity politics, i.e. breaking down society into ever-small er groups*, is valid.
In many countries you'll see people totally ignore others in need, you will also see a complete lack of feeling for an animal in suffering as the norm, whereas here it's the opposite; and a list of such things and differences could go on and on, not always to our favour. The point is, there are definite national characteristics, ans to deny them is to deny human nature.
*take a squint at intersectionality...
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I'm not too good at talking (writing) about this sort of thing but is it the skin colour that is the problem or the culture associated with it?
My OP was stimulated by watch Grayson Perry's thought provoking tour of US (I watched episode 1 last night) ...
There is a lot of talk among the African American community about "White Privilege" .... and the damage that that does. For example, access to better education, jobs etc
Do we see that here?
There is a lot of talk among the African American community about "White Privilege" .... and the damage that that does. For example, access to better education, jobs etc
Do we see that here?
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Yes and no. I know what others think they are - but would suggest that they are neither unique to Britain (or any nation) nor particularly prevalent here. Sure, stereotypes exist for a reason, but they're not 100% accurate - apparently there are some honest Scousers and some generous Scots.
Agreed re. splitting us down into smaller groups being unhelpful (I think that's what you were suggesting) - I am guilty of taking the opposite attitude - "we're all Jock Tamson's bairns".
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Closer to home, apparently British white people are set to become the minority in Birmingham by next year.
Not surprised. I was in and out of BHX Airport about ten times last year. I felt I was in a completely different part of the globe at times!
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I think there is plenty of angry rhetoric about how black kids from poor backgrounds are disadvantaged educationally. But this looks foolish when Asian kids from the same backgrounds often excel and go on to get good jobs. Definitely a case of cultural norms and expectations, rather than wealth or school funding IMO.
Exfarmer
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But the poorest achievers are the poor whites, who frequently have close cousins who are in the upper echelons.
it is a cultural thing more than anything which drives achievement. When I was in school, it was well known that girls achieved below boys. I never dreamed then I would see a time when girls would consistently out perform the boys.
sadly most of these underachieving children have only them selves to blame, except of course they cannot be blamed as they are too young to appreciate their actions. Better Parenting, education and schools ( in that order ) are the key, but I am glad I am not trying to teach them.
What do you mean by underachieving at school ?
I would suggest that may be due to the differences in family structure and values. Generally I think that Asian family values could teach many white families a thing or two.
Tubbylew
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wanton dwarf
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It used to be the case that the "Best" of youth went to grammer schools .. then along came the Liberal do gooders and got rid of grammer schools.
Now the poverty, social and education gap has increased .. whilst the Liberal Elite ensure their children go to private schools and get the best education and therefore the best jobs.
It used to be females that used to under perform .. then along came the Liberal do gooders who changed the way results are collated.
Now men do worse than females.
It used to be Afro Caribeans used to under perform .. then along came the Liberal do gooders .. making sure certain groups got extra education resources.
Now young white men do worse than everyone else.
The current state of affairs is by design .. specifically at the hands of the Liberal Elite.
The solution to ALL these problems is to get rid of the Liberal Elite ..