Calling for 25% UK to be rewilded

[curlietailz]

UK farms plan for going 'carbon neutral' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49645748

“Tomorrow a left-leaning think tank, Common Wealth, will call for re-wilding 25% of the UK. It will say this could provide approximately 70% of the capacity the UK needs to absorb CO2 emissions”

Now...... I guess a little bit of rewinding might be okay....BUT.... in my opinion, anything that is rewilded should expressly ban public access
A rewilded space should be just left .Period. Otherwise it’s not wild by definition
And.... the owner of the land should be paid handsomely for this service

 

[br jones]

25 % of what ,are we stopping building houses ? Are we getti g shot of planes ,cars boats etc,there are enormous tracts of land that can be rewilded woith out going near a farm

 

[Henarar]

Everything inside the M25 for a start
Just put a fence round and then let the bear's and lions and tigers and T-rex run about and have fun

 

[Northeastfarmer]

We should be looking at being 100% self sufficient and cutting down air miles instead of fannying about rewilding
Honestly do politicians think food just appears on the shelves...what happens if we fall out with all these foreign countries and we can’t get any grub

 

[ISCO]

If farmers are paid enough to surrender their land then perhaps not a bad idea. It would also cut production and perhaps provide a more sustainable industry going forward.
It should be a voluntary scheme though as I would not want to be forced to do this as It would not suit everyone's requirements

 

[Gong Farmer]

Everything inside the M25 for a start
Just put a fence round and then let the bear's and lions and tigers and T-rex run about and have fun

I've often thought everything inside the M25 should be a separate state. With its own government (the one there now) and leave the rest of us to it.

 

[upnortheast]

Typical urban dwellers solution.
Rewild all these areas we never have cause to visit, then we can carry on with our lives unhindered, happy in the knowledge that the the problem is under control

 

[delilah]

That article is actually about an NFU report, the Common Wealth reference only appears in the final paragraph.

I am more concerned with the NFU's vision. Unless I have missed it there is no mention of the fact that the biggest single way in which co2 emissions can be cut is through increased self-sufficiency, so cutting food miles. Instead it talks about increasing exports, so increasing food miles.
Why do the NFU have such a problem with championing increased self-sufficiency as a way of helping the environment ? It's the one easy way of getting the green movement and farmers working together. What am I missing ?

 

[matthew]

That article is actually about an NFU report, the Common Wealth reference only appears in the final paragraph.

I am more concerned with the NFU's vision. Unless I have missed it there is no mention of the fact that the biggest single way in which co2 emissions can be cut is through increased self-sufficiency, so cutting food miles. Instead it talks about increasing exports, so increasing food miles.
Why do the NFU have such a problem with championing increased self-sufficiency as a way of helping the environment ? It's the one easy way of getting the green movement and farmers working together. What am I missing ?

Minette wants us all to go zero carbon by 2040.

Homepage

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www.farmbusiness.co.uk

 

[7610 super q]

Hmmm.............zero carbon...

Well Minette, this will require a radical change.

No more massive veg and potato packers located solely in Eastern England.
No more massive farming companies taking huge market share.
No more carting produce to centralised supermarket distribution hubs, then transported back again.
More local abattoirs needed.
More local livestock feed mills.
Etc, etc.

When I was involved with organic eggs, my pullets came from Cornwall, my feed came from Derbyshire , my eggs went to a packhouse in Wiltshire, spent birds went to Lincolnshire ........An embarrassing carbon footprint.

 

[Henarar]

Minette wants us all to go zero carbon by 2040.

Homepage

GLOBALG.A.P launches IFA v6, GRASP v2, and smart farm assurance solutionsMay 4, 2022Meghan Taylor Site expansion completed for Fendt production plantMay 4, 2022Matthew Tilt Cereal Crop Plots – An interview

www.farmbusiness.co.uk

Will it cost me money?
Most of her idea's cost me money

 

[delilah]

Minette wants us all to go zero carbon by 2040.

Homepage

GLOBALG.A.P launches IFA v6, GRASP v2, and smart farm assurance solutionsMay 4, 2022Meghan Taylor Site expansion completed for Fendt production plantMay 4, 2022Matthew Tilt Cereal Crop Plots – An interview

www.farmbusiness.co.uk

Yes, that is the same story as the OP.

But what does it mean ?

That UK agriculture as an industry is zero carbon by 2040 ?
Easy, just rewild the whole shebang.
You are all out of a job.

Or that the UK is zero carbon by 2040 ?
Totally different scenario. Entails relocalizing the food supply chain. Massive reversion in the concentration of market share in food retailing. Huge increase in self sufficiency.
You all have a worthwhile job, valued by society.

Which is it? @Guy Smith

 

[SilliamWhale]

There is no way the UK will be zero carbon by 2040. Its virtue signalling codswallop

 

[Slippery Slope]

Big yawn! I'm getting very tired of the zero carbon story. One minute I'm the cause, next I'm the solution. Meanwhile everyone else carries on with producing whatever they produce and just add 30% to their prices to make the consumer believe that they are buying from a company that cares about the environment.

I'd say 25% of the UK already looks like it's being rewilded through bad management. Rant over.

 

[Paul E]

Yes, put a big fence around all the hilly bits and use the Swaledale lambs to feed the wolves and tigers.
They're fit for F all else.
Where did I put my tin 'at?

 

[Grass And Grain]

If we are not currently self sufficient in food production, then rewilding (or growing more non-food crops) will mean importing even more food.

Surely zero food miles is better than shipping more in from the other side of the world.

I would have thought that increasing our own food production, and importing less food, would be a sensible start to cutting emissions.

 

[DrWazzock]

The way things are going here rewilding will happen by default. When it becomes uneconomic to grow arable crops due to lack of pesticides (already just about there with OSR) then land will be left derelict, unlettable and unsaleable. Nobody wants meat either so it won't be grassed down. Marginal land will just be left to permanent set aside as it won't be worth anybody trying to grow anything on it. This isn't a joke or a way out hypothesis, it's a serious possibility with more actives withdrawn every year. I don't know why, but people think farmers can somehow keep on farming in the face of increasing losses but they can't and they won't. The cracks are already appearing.

 

[4course]

rewilding is an easy to do option . just got to ban the public and their dogs lycra clad lunatics from all woodland, non cropped areas and national parks as happened in the last outbreak of f&m . the increase in wildlife around here was amazing

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I think we should be trying to change the way we farm, also buy seasonally, and locally, more regenerative agriculture, less nitrogen fertliser and higher prices for produce

 

[wanton dwarf]

I think we should change the way cities operate

A lot of the organisations, charities, universities and politicians in London advocate rewilding. These cities are also very polluted, over populated, daily commute and unsustainable.


Seeing as both the people who advocate rewilding also work/live in the most polluted areas the obvious solution is to demolish their homes and businesses. These people & organisations can demonstrate to the rest of the country how it's done.

So BBC, The Guardian, The Independant, Huffington Post, Labour Party, Green Party, Liberal Party, RSPB, UN, London University etc over to you.

Get demolishing and get rewilding !

PS: We don't mind you feeding the Bears & Wolves with your own bodies rather than ours.