Campus oilseed rape replacement

[farm]

What variety should I try which is similar to campus. I believe this is the last year campus is going to be on the recommended list.

 

[Brisel]

Why replace it? Has it not done well for you? Plenty of good varieties have fallen off the RL for the latest junkie (higher input) varieties that give some kind of extra benefit over the established ones!

 

[principal skinner]

Flamingo was my choice, very good autumn vigour, over took the Campus next to it but since then the CSFB have done for the Campus, the Flamingo has survived (just) Not growing OSR this autumn of for the foreseeable future

 

[farm]

Why replace it? Has it not done well for you? Plenty of good varieties have fallen off the RL for the latest junkie (higher input) varieties that give some kind of extra benefit over the established ones!

Yes , I try and buy some new seed every year so as long I can get some new seed.

 

[farm]

Flamingo was my choice, very good autumn vigour, over took the Campus next to it but since then the CSFB have done for the Campus, the Flamingo has survived (just) Not growing OSR this autumn of for the foreseeable future

That's good to know should be good if drilling gets delayed or redrilling.

 

[willy]

Picto is my favorite, always beats my campus and flamingo. but i like to have a few varieties.

another one that has done well for me and has good autumn vigor is analise.

 

[farm]

Picto is my favorite, always beats my campus and flamingo. but i like to have a few varieties.

another one that has done well for me and has good autumn vigor is analise.

Picto is not on the rec list can you still get some new seed

 

[willy]

I did last year from frontier. That rhymes.....

 

[California]

The newer Limagrain varieties look to be a fairly good bet if you are looking for something to try.
Aspire is the one that has made it to the top of the recommended list and has turnip yellow virus resistance and a sound agronomic package but Aardvark and Acacia which are candidate varieties could be just as good if not better and are both supposed to be vigorous. We have ordered some Aspire to try but not sure how much seed is left available.
We'll almost certainly be keeping Campus too though as it's served us well for several years now.
I believe Picto is Campus' sister variety and was only available through Frontier.

 

[Brisel]

I've had good crops of Picto in the past. I only swapped to Campus for spreading the risk & because my IBC full of home saved Picto went fusty in the shed.

I was thinking of buying some Flamingo for breeding up for FSS next year.

 

[farm]

I've had good crops of Picto in the past. I only swapped to Campus for spreading the risk & because my IBC full of home saved Picto went fusty in the shed.

I was thinking of buying some Flamingo for breeding up for FSS next year.

What about kws ballad

 

[farm]

The newer Limagrain varieties look to be a fairly good bet if you are looking for something to try.
Aspire is the one that has made it to the top of the recommended list and has turnip yellow virus resistance and a sound agronomic package but Aardvark and Acacia which are candidate varieties could be just as good if not better and are both supposed to be vigorous. We have ordered some Aspire to try but not sure how much seed is left available.
We'll almost certainly be keeping Campus too though as it's served us well for several years now.
I believe Picto is Campus' sister variety and was only available through Frontier.

Is kws ballad any good

 

[California]

Is kws ballad any good

I have no experience of it but on paper it certainly looks good. We chose Aspire to try for it's TuYV resistance and slightly better light leaf spot score but there is little to choose between them according to the data.

 

[farm]

I have no experience of it but on paper it certainly looks good. We chose Aspire to try for it's TuYV resistance and slightly better light leaf spot score but there is little to choose between them according to the data.

The only thing that puts me off aspire is they say it's slow in the autumn

 

[California]

The only thing that puts me off aspire is they say it's slow in the autumn

I can't comment on that as I've no experience direct experience of the variety (and the recommended list doesn't give scores for it). All I know is that I was speaking to a seed trader who said that there is only one seed crop of it in the country (near Lincolnshire Showground apparently) and it was likely to sell out early.
I looked on the list and on paper there seemed to be a lot to like about it so we ordered a small quantity to try. He did say we could change varieties if we saw it in trials and didn't like the look of it. He also said that Aardvark would be a good variety. I'll see what the AHDB or LG say about it at Cereals or one of the trials days perhaps. Would be interesting to know if anyone is currently growing a crop and what they thought.

 

[farm]

I can't comment on that as I've no experience direct experience of the variety (and the recommended list doesn't give scores for it). All I know is that I was speaking to a seed trader who said that there is only one seed crop of it in the country (near Lincolnshire Showground apparently) and it was likely to sell out early.
I looked on the list and on paper there seemed to be a lot to like about it so we ordered a small quantity to try. He did say we could change varieties if we saw it in trials and didn't like the look of it. He also said that Aardvark would be a good variety. I'll see what the AHDB or LG say about it at Cereals or one of the trials days perhaps. Would be interesting to know if anyone is currently growing a crop and what they thought.

I think LG say it's slow in the autumn compared to campus is fast

 

[California]

I think LG say it's slow in the autumn compared to campus is fast

Did they? I looked on their website and there was no mention of that. Unusual for a seed breeder to be slagging off their own variety! (especially comparing it to that of a rival KWS variety) But nice to hear of their honesty I guess.
Looking at the AHDB list it's output appears to be 106% for the north region (and I assume that's where you'd expect osr to be later drilled) so I wouldn't think it can be that bad but if so perhaps we'll swap.
Campus with some Elgar as back-up are likely to remain the mainstay though. Strangely the Elgar was quicker to grow away than the Campus this autumn and spring. Usually it's the other way around.

 

[willy]

Another plus for picto is that it doesn't seem to mind being drilled thick. I drill fss at 7kgs and it seems to work. Mind you I am not on very fertile land so keep that in mind.

 

[farm]

Did they? I looked on their website and there was no mention of that. Unusual for a seed breeder to be slagging off their own variety! (especially comparing it to that of a rival KWS variety) But nice to hear of their honesty I guess.
Looking at the AHDB list it's output appears to be 106% for the north region (and I assume that's where you'd expect osr to be later drilled) so I wouldn't think it can be that bad but if so perhaps we'll swap.
Campus with some Elgar as back-up are likely to remain the mainstay though. Strangely the Elgar was quicker to grow away than the Campus this autumn and spring. Usually it's the other way around.

They are not slagging it off, it's just more suitable for early drilling rather then late drilling.

 

[California]

They are not slagging it off, it's just more suitable for early drilling rather then late drilling.

To say that a variety lacks vigour (and is therefore only suited to early drilling) is slagging it off in my view. If LG are genuinely saying that it lacks Autumn (or Spring) vigour and we'd be better off with KWS Campus as it is much more vigourous then we shall be cancelling the order!