cap the CAP

[roscoe erf]

Don’t know what you’re all worrying about. Sucklers is a hugely profitable enterprise and I don’t need the subs at all. In fact I’m burying money into pensions, machinery and new cars as fast as possible to get it away from the taxman.

If you need the subs you’re just doing it all wrong, I can’t wait until pocket money day turns up every Christmas!!


















I said it before some other deluded fool does

for christ sake man keep it under your hat I've told you before loose lips sink ships

 

[Bossfarmer]

It should be capped at the national average wage....we’re not special

Whats the national average wage got to do with it many big farms employ numerous people at this salary, a tractor, a combine even a cow isnt cheap these days and ive not even mentioned land or the cost of upkeeping it, some folk are naive to the costs of food production

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Whats the national average wage got to do with it many big farms employ numerous people at this salary, a tractor, a combine even a cow isnt cheap these days and ive not even mentioned land or the cost of upkeeping it, some folk are naive to the costs of food production

How many people do you employ?

 

[Bossfarmer]

How many people do you employ?

myself and brother but my sub is just under the 100k cap they were speaking of so im referring to the larger businesses

 

[Northeastfarmer]

myself and brother but my sub is just under the 100k cap they were speaking of so im referring to the larger businesses

So you’ve got 1300 acres 100k cap and there’s only you and you’re brother?

 

[joe soapy]

The whole basis of disscussion on this thread is wrong.
Subsidies should be tied to needs of the country, for instance, set a home production level target.
Then set the subs to either encourage or slow down particular branches of farming.
in much the same way the old standard quantities were done, and used in the past to encourage oddball stuff
such as linseed,flax or native breeds or renewable energy along side the main food groups of meat, milk and grains

 

[Bossfarmer]

So you’ve got 1300 acres 100k cap and there’s only you and you’re brother?

yes theres 30 acres of trees and 100 acres of perm grass though

 

[Northeastfarmer]

yes theres 30 acres of trees and 100 acres of perm grass though

So you and you’re brother couldn’t live off 1170 acres of arable plus about 30k cap?

 

[Bossfarmer]

So you and you’re brother couldn’t live off 1170 acres of arable plus about 30k cap?

its not about what i can live off its a business remember? a serious amount of money is invested over generations i could get a "living" sitting on my neighbours tractor?? there needs to be money after tax to reinvest and keep the farm going forward

 

[Northeastfarmer]

its not about what i can live off its a business remember? a serious amount of money is invested over generations i could get a "living" sitting on my neighbours tractor?? there needs to be money after tax to reinvest and keep the farm going forward

Did you make a profit without your cap?

 

[joe soapy]

myself and brother but my sub is just under the 100k cap they were speaking of so im referring to the larger businesses

Just looked at google earth for between perth and inverness, that is some rough country, even google wont fly their planes over it and the pics are black and white

 

[roscoe erf]

Did you make a profit without your cap?

said the bishop to the prostitute

 

[Bossfarmer]

Did you make a profit without your cap?

very little

 

[Northeastfarmer]

very little

You better get a job driving your neighbours tractors when the caps gone then

 

[Bossfarmer]

y

You better get a job driving your neighbours tractors when the caps gone then

you making big profits without the cap? are you remembering to add all costs(unpaid family labour/notional rental value etc)? how does your profit without cap compare to other industries in the UK for return on money invested?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

What’s stopping you?

4 kids still in uni .one has just past the 2cd toughest Ballet exam in the country .who am I to stop her following her dream, don't all dad's do it for their kids .anyway my main business is run without support of any kind

 

[Northeastfarmer]

y

you making big profits without the cap? are you remembering to add all costs(unpaid family labour/notional rental value etc)? how does your profit without cap compare to other industries in the UK for return on money invested?

Farming has always been capital intensive with a poor return for money invested...there’s nothing stopping you continuing though

 

[Northeastfarmer]

4 kids still in uni .one has just past the 2cd toughest Ballet exam in the country .who am I to stop her following her dream, don't all dad's do it for their kids .anyway my main business is run without support of any kind

You told me you spent all day watching sky go?

 

[Bossfarmer]

your n

Farming has always been capital intensive with a poor return for money invested...there’s nothing stopping you continuing though

your dodging the question

 

[Northeastfarmer]

your n

your dodging the question

I’m not making big profits without it but I’m not banging on about keeping the cap in every thread